[The Urban Sombrero]

Well LOL, you are known to repeat distortions as long as they come from the mouth of a Democrat. Obama, changed the law where it comes to his administration having distributed raw data and the unmasked persons for whom the data was attributable, to those now infamous 17 federal intelligence agencies.

Nobody now denies that what the Obama Administration did surveillance-wise against the Trump campaign and subsequent Presidential transition team, was unprecedented in the history of this nation. So now to use an analogy of mine of which you have shown particular acceptance, the entire combined forces of the former administration are all dancing on the head of a pin, insisting that the former president 'did not order' the surveillance. And yet, such surveillance was conducted by way of what had become common practice, and all he had to do, (and if the reporting on the matter is at all accurate did) was to avail himself of said info and then disseminate same.

And let's face it, Flynn is gone and the leaks go on.

There is a special counsel. I will accept his findings.

It seems to me you are the one sifting the puddle, a mud hole of tweets, O Pontificater (practicer) of Projection.

[TheRealThing]

There is a special counsel. I will accept his findings.

It seems to me you are the one sifting the puddle, a mud hole of tweets, O Pontificater (practicer) of Projection.

Still having difficulty with those half cocked metaphors I see. I've heard of slogging through the mud, never quite heard of sifting through mud though.

[The Urban Sombrero]

Still having difficulty with those half cocked metaphors I see. I've heard of slogging through the mud, never quite heard of sifting through mud though.

Think about it. You'll catch on eventually. Or, maybe not. I now dub you "Forum Boy," as you just crave those "gotcha" moments. I guess the legend in his own mind needs constant reinforcement.

At any rate, you know, friendo, the little bucket and shovel kits kids love. They'll come with a sifter. Now, maybe you've never seen kids use that sifter in a mud puddle, but I have.

[TheRealThing]

Think about it. You'll catch on eventually. Or, maybe not. I now dub you "Forum Boy," as you just crave those "gotcha" moments. I guess the legend in his own mind needs constant reinforcement.

At any rate, you know, friendo, the little bucket and shovel kits kids love. They'll come with a sifter. Now, maybe you've never seen kids use that sifter in a mud puddle, but I have.

:hilarious: Now that was truly weak. Never seen a mud puddle in a sand box or at a beach either. But I am certain that you see stuff all the time that I don't, and probably no one else does for that matter.

[The Urban Sombrero]

:hilarious: Now that was truly weak. Never seen a mud puddle in a sand box or at a beach either. But I am certain that you see stuff all the time that I don't, and probably no one else does for that matter.

You've never seen little kids with a sifter around a mud puddle? Poor fellow, under that big rock of smug all day. Poor baby.

What's weak is comparing a peaceful protest to a suicide bombing. Now, that's weak.

[TheRealThing]

You've never seen little kids with a sifter around a mud puddle? Poor fellow, under that big rock of smug all day. Poor baby.

What's weak is comparing a peaceful protest to a suicide bombing. Now, that's weak.

It wasn't a suicide bombing.

[The Urban Sombrero]

It wasn't a suicide bombing.

While it is not pertinent to the comparison you made, whether the young man strapped on a backpack bomb, or left it on the ground, I think right now I'll stick with the reporting of THE TELEGRAPH.

[TheRealThing]

While it is not pertinent to the comparison you made, whether the young man strapped on a backpack bomb, or left it on the ground, I think right now I'll stick with the reporting of THE TELEGRAPH.

Fine, he was a useful idiot who was controlled by hate speech and radicalization. The students and their organizers were radicalized by hate speech and liberal indoctrination. Like I said, not much difference in the way the arrived at their particular states of insanity. The constitution guarantees peaceful assembly and the petitioning government. A petition BTW, is a formal written request, not burning down towns and showing extreme disrespect at a college commencement

[The Urban Sombrero]

Fine, he was a useful idiot who was controlled by hate speech and radicalization. The students and their organizers were radicalized by hate speech and liberal indoctrination. Like I said, not much difference in the way the arrived at their particular states of insanity. The constitution guarantees peaceful assembly and the petitioning government. A petition BTW, is a formal written request, not burning down towns and showing extreme disrespect at a college commencement

I just reject as out of hand the idea that those who peacefully walked out at the Notre Dame graduation, or what or whoever influenced them in their views and actions, have any reasonable connection to the propogandists of ISIS and the horrible fruits of their labor.

[TheRealThing]

I just reject as out of hand the idea that those who peacefully walked out at the Notre Dame graduation, or what or whoever influenced them in their views and actions, have any reasonable connection to the propogandists of ISIS and the horrible fruits of their labor.

Oh of course you do.

Your dogged dedication to the liberal/progressive ideology forms a filter which strains out all reality except DNC sanctioned propaganda. There is no connection between the Notre Dame walkouts and ISIS, and I never made any faint allege to that end.

What I did say was clearly stated. People who can be talked into committing murder and mayhem, even to the point of turning their own body into a living bomb or otherwise throwing themselves into oblivion in a blaze of hate not of their own, are hardly human. An empty outline of what life is meant to be, they mindlessly accept indoctrination by puppet masters (whom they've never even met) who want to kill those with whom they either disagree or just because they are different. These puppet masters don't want to commit such acts of stupidity themselves and so they talk people without purpose into doing their dirty work.

The ND students in question were indoctrinated and then compelled in similar fashion, to do the bidding of their puppet masters who would rather lay low, putting their wallets and true believer underlings to work in carrying out their ideological agenda.

Both of the groups of this discussion were preyed upon by those who know how to take advantage of those who are maladjusted or who owing to youth, labor under the constraints of their own naïveté or biases. Look at it this way Simon, and I know you think you can catch a whale from that bucket of water you just dipped out of the puddle; But as any fisherman worth his salt will tell you, among every school of bass are those fish which are catchable. However, not all of those 'catchable bass' will fall for the same lure. Some will jump on a crankbait and some may take a spoon.

Now, I did not say nor did I intimate in the vaguest of terms, that the student walkouts were recruit fodder for ISIS. But like the loser and his support group who blew up those folks in Manchester, they are hadable and malleable as was clearly in evidence by their walkout. The fact that they fell for and took the bait that their peers chose to reject, is undeniable. But in considering the level of your allegiance to the liberal cause, and consequential predilection for relativity, I can see where you'd have difficulty in seeing my point.

[The Urban Sombrero]

⬆ You make tracks, then say, "Why, it wasn't my truck."

You folks are all about using words like "elitist," and whine the livelong day about folk thinking they know motive and all that. Read your own posts. That's a graat bit of all they are. The Notre Dame graduates who walked out are no more or less puppets than those who tune in to Hannity every day. The Notre Dame walkout was peaceful protest. It is Constitutionally protected, and to keep posting garbage that mixes in ISIS and ISIS propogandizers with the Notre Dame walkout? I reject that out of hand.

[TheRealThing]

⬆ You make tracks, then say, "Why, it wasn't my truck."

You folks are all about using words like "elitist," and whine the livelong day about folk thinking they know motive and all that. Read your own posts. That's a graat bit of all they are. The Notre Dame graduates who walked out are no more or less puppets than those who tune in to Hannity every day. The Notre Dame walkout was peaceful protest. It is Constitutionally protected, and to keep posting garbage that mixes in ISIS and ISIS propogandizers with the Notre Dame walkout? I reject that out of hand.

:hilarious: Worst attempt at analogy yet. But the fact that you reject reality should mean what to those of us who function outside of La-La Land?

[The Urban Sombrero]

:hilarious: Worst attempt at analogy yet. But the fact that you reject reality should mean what to those of us who function outside of La-La Land?

Let's see, shape shifter, I didn't roll up into one ball ISIS propogandizers and the Notre Dame protesters. You did. As to reality, that's it.

[TheRealThing]

Let's see, shape shifter, I didn't roll up into one ball ISIS propogandizers and the Notre Dame protesters. You did. As to reality, that's it.

Here you go again, guilefully redefining the words of others clearly stated, in order to turn real time current events into a social justice argument. An argument which history and reality proves that you have lost--- again. But not to worry, Gitback just loves you, and his 'like button' is still in perfect working order. Now if you could just get NEWARK on board.

But actually you're the one trying to 'roll up' acts of patriotism (which are by definition selfless) with acts of subversion and selfishness which are by definition destructive. It's a mutually exclusive world through the eyes of the Sombrero, but I wouldn't worry a lot about it, deceit is it's own master and my aren't you adept.

[The Urban Sombrero]

Here you go again, guilefully redefining the words of others clearly stated, in order to turn real time current events into a social justice argument. An argument which history and reality proves that you have lost--- again. But not to worry, Gitback just loves you, and his 'like button' is still in perfect working order. Now if you could just get NEWARK on board.

But actually you're the one trying to 'roll up' acts of patriotism (which are by definition selfless) with acts of subversion and selfishness which are by definition destructive. It's a mutually exclusive world through the eyes of the Sombrero, but I wouldn't worry a lot about it, deceit is it's own master and my aren't you adept.

The folks who walked out peacefully at Notre Dame incited no riot, threw no bricks, lit nothing on fire, looted no stores. It was a peaceful act of political protest, and that is quintessentially American. All efforts to link said protesters with those who advocate and practice violence can go begging elsewhere.

[TheRealThing]

The folks who walked out peacefully at Notre Dame incited no riot, threw no bricks, lit nothing on fire, looted no stores. It was a peaceful act of political protest, and that is quintessentially American. All efforts to link said protesters with those who advocate and practice violence can go begging elsewhere.

You mean other than your usual booth at the Pine Mountain Grill? Because other than that you don't have diddly to say about what or when I say anything, friendo.

It was one of the very few of late, peaceful acts of political protest. But it was at a non-political event, supported by and spurred on by a number of professional liberal muckrakers like 'South Bend Equality,' whose spokesperson read the following formal comments at the walkout--- "Our members lived in South Bend when Mike Pence was governor," the group said in a statement. "We know all too well how his policies endangered or caused direct harm to public education, health care, women's rights, the environment, LGBTQ individuals, immigrants and refugees, reproductive rights, local infrastructure, the economy of our state, and more."


Don't statements like that ^^ just tear at your heart strings?
:happytear:

[The Urban Sombrero]

You mean other than your usual booth at the Pine Mountain Grill? Because other than that you don't have diddly to say about what or when I say anything, friendo.

It was one of the very few of late, peaceful acts of political protest. But it was at a non-political event, supported by and spurred on by a number of professional liberal muckrakers like 'South Bend Equality,' whose spokesperson read the following formal comments at the walkout--- "Our members lived in South Bend when Mike Pence was governor," the group said in a statement. "We know all too well how his policies endangered or caused direct harm to public education, health care, women's rights, the environment, LGBTQ individuals, immigrants and refugees, reproductive rights, local infrastructure, the economy of our state, and more."


Don't statements like that ^^ just tear at your heart strings?
:happytear:

Palm fronds to tire tracks: but, hey, had I made the comparison YOU MADE, I would be backtracking also. Basically, friendo, the Notre Dame group opposed many of Pence's policy decisions, as they viewed them as harmful. So they walked out. No matter the group, no matter the issue, no matter the dot on the political spectrum, peaceful protest is quintessentially American, and how one "feels" about that is irrelevant to freedom.

[TheRealThing]

Palm fronds to tire tracks: but, hey, had I made the comparison YOU MADE, I would be backtracking also. Basically, friendo, the Notre Dame group opposed many of Pence's policy decisions, as they viewed them as harmful. So they walked out. No matter the group, no matter the issue, no matter the dot on the political spectrum, peaceful protest is quintessentially American, and how one "feels" about that is irrelevant to freedom.

LOL, if you made the comparison I made you wouldn't be a monkey puke swilling lib.

[The Urban Sombrero]

LOL, if you made the comparison I made you wouldn't be a monkey puke swilling lib.

Well, friendo, you've certainly realigned several times here. As for me, I will stick with what is obviously accurate: the peaceful protest by the people of the powerful is quintessentially American.

[TheRealThing]

Well, friendo, you've certainly realigned several times here. As for me, I will stick with what is obviously accurate: the peaceful protest by the people of the powerful is quintessentially American.

Never a hint of a waver on my part, but that doesn't stop you from lying about it, as if nobody else can read. But how can you 'stick with' what's accurate when you've never been in the same area code?

[The Urban Sombrero]

Never a hint of a waver on my part, but that doesn't stop you from lying about it, as if nobody else can read. But how can you 'stick with' what's accurate when you've never been in the same area code?

I hope your batch is legal, as it would be unseemly for you to be using illegal herb. The premise that peaceful protest of those in power is quintessentially American remains true. When the fog of your daze clears, I'm sure you'll continue to head-pin dance. And that's amusing.

[TheRealThing]

I hope your batch is legal, as it would be unseemly for you to be using illegal herb. The premise that peaceful protest of those in power is quintessentially American remains true. When the fog of your daze clears, I'm sure you'll continue to head-pin dance. And that's amusing.

The right to petition government has not the first thing to do with acting like asses at a college commencement. "to petition the Government for a redress of grievances" It's no wonder that no petition of government was made at Notre Dame, that's a college.

Don't come on here accusing me of backing up like you did a couple posts back unless it's true. But speaking of backing up, you on the other hand, can never back up a thing you say because all you ever got is blather from liberal cry babies. You just blurt out something without any form of credible witness whatever. To you, that's debating. To me it's just repeating BS, and even at that it's not your own.

[The Urban Sombrero]

The right to petition government has not the first thing to do with acting like asses at a college commencement. "to petition the Government for a redress of grievances" It's no wonder that no petition of government was made at Notre Dame, that's a college.

Don't come on here accusing me of backing up like you did a couple posts back unless it's true. But speaking of backing up, you on the other hand, can never back up a thing you say because all you ever got is blather from liberal cry babies. You just blurt out something without any form of credible witness whatever. To you, that's debating. To me it's just repeating BS, and even at that it's not your own.

Are you suggesting that what the students and parents did at Notre Dame is unamerican? Are you suggesting that you don't "back up" your opinions with alt right punditry? Now, I wouldn't know you from a big, stinking, steamy pile of elephant dung, but your online persona is a cloud without rain, a bluster without substance, the LONG meanering rants of a Patti Partisan.

[TheRealThing]

Are you suggesting that what the students and parents did at Notre Dame is unamerican? Are you suggesting that you don't "back up" your opinions with alt right punditry? Now, I wouldn't know you from a big, stinking, steamy pile of elephant dung, but your online persona is a cloud without rain, a bluster without substance, the LONG meanering rants of a Patti Partisan.

Oh no, I'm not suggesting anything. I prefer to leave duplicity up to the quintessential projectionist. But I am certain given the history of YOUR online persona, that where specializing in all manner of stinking dung is concerned, you are the acme of professionalism.

[The Urban Sombrero]

Oh no, I'm not suggesting anything. I prefer to leave duplicity up to the quintessential projectionist. But I am certain given the history of YOUR online persona, that where specializing in all manner of stinking dung is concerned, you are the acme of professionalism.

That's just the issue: I am trying to determine what it is you are saying in regards peaceful protest. I'll try again: are you saying, then, that peaceful protest is a right, but that walking out during Pence's speech was disrespectful? As to "dung," as Lebowski said, "that's, like, your opinion, man."

[TheRealThing]

That's just the issue: I am trying to determine what it is you are saying in regards peaceful protest. I'll try again: are you saying, then, that peaceful protest is a right, but that walking out during Pence's speech was disrespectful? As to "dung," as Lebowski said, "that's, like, your opinion, man."

Well you go ahead and work on that, but from where I stand it will take a career for you to figure it out.

[The Urban Sombrero]

Well you go ahead and work on that, but from where I stand it will take a career for you to figure it out.

From where you stand: the kingdom of the partisan, where you may well be "leader of that there outfit."

[RunItUpTheGut]

Daily reminder that Trump is still potus and Islam needs eradicated.

That is all.

[The Urban Sombrero]

Daily reminder that Trump is still potus and Islam needs eradicated.

That is all.

"Islam needs eradicated."

Most, if not all, white nationalists (the kinder, gentler KKK {bankrupted by the Southern Poverty Law Center}) claim Christianity.

[TheRealThing]

From where you stand: the kingdom of the partisan, where you may well be "leader of that there outfit."

Still better than that little troop you lead, NEWARK, Gitback and a reluctant vector. LOL, I'd bet Gitback is so excited to be mentioned in the same post with you it will take everything he's got not to 'like' this one.