[Hillbilly Heartthrob]

^ I have never went on about it in the first place. :Thumbs:

Anyone who has ever saw a post from me on the topic knows I don't want LC to move to the 59th. I think it is absurd...

Uhhhhhh but You'll sit there and talk about how Pikeville doesn't want LC in the district because of baseball??????.

No Sir, THAT is absurd :happybliss:

[LCDawg]

Uhhhhhh but You'll sit there and talk about how Pikeville doesn't want LC in the district because of baseball??????.

No Sir, THAT is absurd :happybliss:

DOH! Sorry brother... you got the wrong person... that was the LC_Dawgs guy/gal... not I. :Thumbs:

Last I heard on the matter was that they are now saying LC will move to the 60th instead. lol Too me, that makes about as much sense as moving to the 59th.

[Hillbilly Heartthrob]

I'd be changing my name haha If I were you.

Making you look bad.

[LCDawg]

^ LOL I may have to check into that...

[Hillbilly Heartthrob]

You could make a new account, cuz you're so busy and stuff.

[PHSForever]

DOH! Sorry brother... you got the wrong person... that was the LC_Dawgs guy/gal... not I. :Thumbs:

Last I heard on the matter was that they are now saying LC will move to the 60th instead. lol Too me, that makes about as much sense as moving to the 59th.

I owe you an apology too, didn't even notice the difference in the names. Still, the other person with a name similar to yours is absurd. lol As for them moving into the 60th, that's even more absurd. WHY can't the KHSAA for once demonstrate some kind of common sense...ANY kind, just once when it comes to alignments? Is that apparently asking too much?

[LCDawg]

^ No problem... I agree, but sadly it appears it has little to do with common sense and more to do with whoever has the most clout in the political arena... hence the reason other teams haven't already been moved or can refuse to do so IMO.

[lchsalumnus]

Uhhhhhh but You'll sit there and talk about how Pikeville doesn't want LC in the district because of baseball??????.

No Sir, THAT is absurd :happybliss:

i'm new to following lchs baseball. but can you tell me how many times pikeville has won the region since lc moved in to the 15th? i really do not know. serious question. i think the answer should shed light on things a great deal. thanks in advance for the research. as for the move to the 59th, it should happen. someone should move. having a district with 5 teams and districts with 3 teams is what's absurd. spread it out. make it even. and the gasoline arguments being made is laughable. folks just look at each team's schedule. they travel great distances already. stop making yourselves look bad by saying "travel" is a problem with the move.

[SureThing]

i'm new to following lchs baseball. but can you tell me how many times pikeville has won the region since lc moved in to the 15th? i really do not know. serious question. i think the answer should shed light on things a great deal. thanks in advance for the research. as for the move to the 59th, it should happen. someone should move. having a district with 5 teams and districts with 3 teams is what's absurd. spread it out. make it even. and the gasoline arguments being made is laughable. folks just look at each team's schedule. they travel great distances already. stop making yourselves look bad by saying "travel" is a problem with the move.

Maybe you should look back at what you have posted in previous threads. You stated in one that you have been around the program a long time, so which is it, have you been around the baseball program a long time or are you new to it? I for one am againt moving districts because of travel and no its not laughable. Stop saying its because certain teams don't want to play certain teams. Playing great teams is what makes any team grow and become better. You have to play the best to be the best!

[Hillbilly Heartthrob]

UMMMMM last time I checked this is not a baseball thread.

Anyway, How is the 59th (SV, Pikeville, and ER) looking bad by not wanting to travel an hour away.

ER is the Farthest team in the 15th east and SV is the farthest team south?
and that makes us look bad because we don't want our fans to travel that far for a district matchup.

The better question for you is....Why would you want to travel that far as an LC fan?

[lchsalumnus]

Maybe you should look back at what you have posted in previous threads. You stated in one that you have been around the program a long time, so which is it, have you been around the baseball program a long time or are you new to it? I for one am againt moving districts because of travel and no its not laughable. Stop saying its because certain teams don't want to play certain teams. Playing great teams is what makes any team grow and become better. You have to play the best to be the best!

i was around when lchs was in the 16th. since they moved to the 15th i haven't followed them much due to my job. i should have clarified. but regardless, the lack of an answer speaks loudly.

[lchsalumnus]

UMMMMM last time I checked this is not a baseball thread.

Anyway, How is the 59th (SV, Pikeville, and ER) looking bad by not wanting to travel an hour away.

ER is the Farthest team in the 15th east and SV is the farthest team south?
and that makes us look bad because we don't want our fans to travel that far for a district matchup.

The better question for you is....Why would you want to travel that far as an LC fan?

the last i checked it was you pike county people who brought up baseball and the dominance of pikeville. i just simply wanted to know. so i guess i'll conduct my research and let you know how dominant pikeville has been since lchs joined the 15th. you will be the first to know.

[Hillbilly Heartthrob]

^ I didn't bring up baseball big guy.

For one because this is a boys basketball thread, so what does an SV guy care about the Pikeville and LC baseball history?

that's easy I don't and I'm the people from ER say the same.

it is about distance for us.

[SureThing]

i was around when lchs was in the 16th. since they moved to the 15th i haven't followed them much due to my job. i should have clarified. but regardless, the lack of an answer speaks loudly.

Its not a lack of an answer. just stating a fact. you seem to get on these threads and know it all. i don't think so!!!!

[LCDawg]

Just an FYI - Baseball stats as requested:

LC moved to 15th in 2006 and has won 3 out of the 6 years.

2006 - SC
2007 - JC
2008 - LC
2009 - LC
2010 - PV
2011 - LC

[Hillbilly Heartthrob]

Badman? somebody?

This thread has nothing to do with BASEBALL. :ChairHit:

[lchsalumnus]

Just an FYI - Baseball stats as requested:

LC moved to 15th in 2006 and has one 3 out of the 6 years.

2006 - SC
2007 - JC
2008 - LC
2009 - LC
2010 - PV
2011 - LC

wow. that is some dominance by pikeville. i guess that is why lchs wouldn't dominate their district. they have dominated the region since 2006. nicker: and lc has only won 3 regional titles during that span. no wonder they want lchs to move to the 16th.

[lchsalumnus]

Badman? somebody?

This thread has nothing to do with BASEBALL. :ChairHit:

you are right. but someone from pikeville did bring it up. as for distance, please explain to me what the difference is for east ridge or shelby valley traveling to lawrence for a regular season game than traveling for a district game? travel is not a determining factor. teams travel all the time. the games can be done on friday nights for basketball and/or baseball. this way kids getting in late won't be a factor either. it can be done. it should be done.

[Hillbilly Heartthrob]

Pikeville, ER, and Valley are within a 30 mile distance from each other.

and these teams wouldn't be traveling for ONE game.

These fans bases would have to travel an hour away for 4 district games.

that includes boys and girls.

[Hillbilly Heartthrob]

and you never answered the question, WHY SHOULD IT BE DONE?

[LCDawg]

^ I think the reasoning is so the 57th and 59th would both then be a 4 team district instead of a 5 team and a 3 team. Makes sense from that perspective, just not economically so much.

[Panther Thunder]

you are right. but someone from pikeville did bring it up. as for distance, please explain to me what the difference is for east ridge or shelby valley traveling to lawrence for a regular season game than traveling for a district game? travel is not a determining factor. teams travel all the time. the games can be done on friday nights for basketball and/or baseball. this way kids getting in late won't be a factor either. it can be done. it should be done.

As Chris Rock once said, 'Just because you can do it, does not mean it is to be done.'

All of a sudden it seems the attack has been shifted from the KHSAA to PHS, SV, and ER.

Why would LC fans want to make this move?!

[Panther Thunder]

^ I think the reasoning is so the 57th and 59th would both then be a 4 team district instead of a 5 team and a 3 team. Makes sense from that perspective, just not economically so much.

I have heard that if the move is done ER will move to the 60th. 59th will remain a 3 team district.

[LCDawg]

^ What sense would that make I wonder? Move LC to the 59th and then move ER to the 60th, making it a 4 team district now and the 57th a 4 team district, but still a 3 team district for the 59th. Craziness isn't it?

I don't know what the answer is short of moving someone out of the 57th and moving someone in from another district outside of the 15th.

[PHSForever]

Badman? somebody?

This thread has nothing to do with BASEBALL. :ChairHit:

Actually, I'm the one who started this thread. The thread was about, to quote my original post:

" Lawrence County wants to move to the 59th District
Lawrence County Schools have submitted a request/proposal to be moved out of the 57th district and into the 59th. This was placed on the Board of Control agenda without ever being discussed with Pikeville. Luckily the principal saw it on the agenda and notified the superintendent, who was able to go to the meeting and ask that it not be voted on, that it be tabled, which it was.

Absolutely ridiculous request. Hour and a half drive each way for the closest 59th district team to travel or for LC to travel for a game. The proposal also would have moved East Ridge out of the 59th and into the 60th. I don't know what Lawrence County was thinking."

Since then, it has devolved into mostly a discussion focused on baseball competition, as most Lawrence County and Pikeville threads do. That's due to one primary factor: competition between the two in other sports has been fairly lopsided or non-existent (don't play in football, volleyball, etc).

It can not be disputed that Lawrence County has traditionally been very strong in baseball, likewise the same can be said of Pikeville. The main discussion point should focus on the absurdity of the geographic reality here. Lawrence County is a one and a half hour drive EACH WAY from Pikeville/Shelby Valley (add 15 minutes for games involving Valley).

Now why, in all seriousness, should a team be relocated to a district that requires them to drive through TWO other districts and part of a 3rd one? Simply ridiculous. As it is, LC is now in the same region as Pikeville (at least in Volleyball) due to a realignment in the All A. In their infinite wisdom, the All A organizers decided to up the enrollment limit for schools to compete in the All A tourney. That now means LC volleyball fans will have to drive to Pikeville High School this year to compete/cheer for their team in the All A regional tourney. The way the bracket is set up, they could end up having to make multiple trips if they win, or even have to get hotel rooms. Yes, this would (in theory) help the local economies of the hosting schools, but let's be realistic here, how many volleyball fans travel? Usually only the parents. Same for baseball or even basketball, unless it is a close game. Johnson Central/Paintsville is the very outer limits of what I would consider to be the 15th region.

Simply put, LC needs to be in a district closer to their home base, to benefit their program financially, as well as for the benefit of their fans being able to get out and support them. I guarantee you, unless my son or daughter is playing in a game, I would not travel to LC for the district tourney, and I would bet my bottom dollar 99% of the LC fans would say the same. It is just too far of a drive.

[lchsalumnus]

Actually, I'm the one who started this thread. The thread was about, to quote my original post:

" Lawrence County wants to move to the 59th District
Lawrence County Schools have submitted a request/proposal to be moved out of the 57th district and into the 59th. This was placed on the Board of Control agenda without ever being discussed with Pikeville. Luckily the principal saw it on the agenda and notified the superintendent, who was able to go to the meeting and ask that it not be voted on, that it be tabled, which it was.

Absolutely ridiculous request. Hour and a half drive each way for the closest 59th district team to travel or for LC to travel for a game. The proposal also would have moved East Ridge out of the 59th and into the 60th. I don't know what Lawrence County was thinking."

Since then, it has devolved into mostly a discussion focused on baseball competition, as most Lawrence County and Pikeville threads do. That's due to one primary factor: competition between the two in other sports has been fairly lopsided or non-existent (don't play in football, volleyball, etc).

It can not be disputed that Lawrence County has traditionally been very strong in baseball, likewise the same can be said of Pikeville. The main discussion point should focus on the absurdity of the geographic reality here. Lawrence County is a one and a half hour drive EACH WAY from Pikeville/Shelby Valley (add 15 minutes for games involving Valley).

Now why, in all seriousness, should a team be relocated to a district that requires them to drive through TWO other districts and part of a 3rd one? Simply ridiculous. As it is, LC is now in the same region as Pikeville (at least in Volleyball) due to a realignment in the All A. In their infinite wisdom, the All A organizers decided to up the enrollment limit for schools to compete in the All A tourney. That now means LC volleyball fans will have to drive to Pikeville High School this year to compete/cheer for their team in the All A regional tourney. The way the bracket is set up, they could end up having to make multiple trips if they win, or even have to get hotel rooms. Yes, this would (in theory) help the local economies of the hosting schools, but let's be realistic here, how many volleyball fans travel? Usually only the parents. Same for baseball or even basketball, unless it is a close game. Johnson Central/Paintsville is the very outer limits of what I would consider to be the 15th region.

Simply put, LC needs to be in a district closer to their home base, to benefit their program financially, as well as for the benefit of their fans being able to get out and support them. I guarantee you, unless my son or daughter is playing in a game, I would not travel to LC for the district tourney, and I would bet my bottom dollar 99% of the LC fans would say the same. It is just too far of a drive.

then why do you care if you don't plan on attending? the fact is that lchs plays pike county teams every year in basketball and baseball. how ironic is it that a pike county fan is arguing about travel for district games when they have a stronghold on the 15th region tourney at the expo center. is that FAIR, i ask? is it FAIR that lchs fans or johnson central or paintsville or sheldon clark have to travel to the expo center? this, sir, is the argument that i use. the fact that as long as it benefits pike county, then it is justly and right. if it does not benefit pike county, then it is wrong and should not be done. you, sir, and your county, do not dictate the rules or reason.

[Hillbilly Heartthrob]

then why do you care if you don't plan on attending? the fact is that lchs plays pike county teams every year in basketball and baseball. how ironic is it that a pike county fan is arguing about travel for district games when they have a stronghold on the 15th region tourney at the expo center. is that FAIR, i ask? is it FAIR that lchs fans or johnson central or paintsville or sheldon clark have to travel to the expo center? this, sir, is the argument that i use. the fact that as long as it benefits pike county, then it is justly and right. if it does not benefit pike county, then it is wrong and should not be done. you, sir, and your county, do not dictate the rules or reason.

If that's the case, then why LC?......Why not SC, Magoffin, JC, or Paintsville move into the 59th.

Those are just as close.

[LCDawg]

^ I say they draw straws and whoever loses moves to the 59th! :biggrin:

[Hillbilly Heartthrob]

^It would make about the same amount of sense lol

[JCHS Alumni Eagle]

This is stupid... They switched regions cause they couldnt compete with Ashland and other area teams up there... Now that the super talent that they have is gone they are trying to get outa the 57th... Sounds to me like they should man up and get outa districts by beating the better teams not moving to a weaker district. Makes no sense to me at all.