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03-03-2010, 09:33 AM
Rebel55 Wrote:Boyle did not make Dunn come to their school. He did this on his own with his parents. If you knew anything about Boyle as you think you do, you would already know this. Just another outsider making a false accusation.
Ok. So who will replace McShara? :argue:
03-03-2010, 10:53 AM
Foxtrot Wrote:I bet coach Smith did not yell at them did he?
Let me tell you a story about Coach Smith. Once I seen him jump all over a player after a mistake on the field. 1 minute later he had his arm around him telling the player how much he appreciates him. The players repected Coach Smith and would run through a wall if he told them to. That's one of many different ways that Coach Smith kept the respect of the players and it showed on the field.
03-03-2010, 10:59 AM
Foxtrot Wrote:Ok. So who will replace McShara? :argue:
My guess is Devin Cox, he was the person that ran that kickoff back in the State Title game last year that got called back. Devin is very fast and good, Boyle didn't use him because they didn't have to. Chris Cook will get more carries, and I believe Lamar will also. IMO Boyle will pass the ball more with a kid that has a nice arm stepping up this year. With the defense coming back (7 starters) that we have, we will not need to score many points to get the W.
03-03-2010, 11:14 AM
Foxtrot Wrote:But you know it is true that Rees played 4 years as a starter and the QB was shopped around by pops.
Rees was a back up all of his Freshman year. The start of his sophomore year he still was a backup runningback against Bowling Green at WKU in the Rafferty's Bowl. It wasn't until DeAndre Cox quit the team that he became a starter at running back.
03-03-2010, 11:17 AM
Rebel55 Wrote:Let me tell you a story about Coach Smith. Once I seen him jump all over a player after a mistake on the field. 1 minute later he had his arm around him telling the player how much he appreciates him. The players repected Coach Smith and would run through a wall if he told them to. That's one of many different ways that Coach Smith kept the respect of the players and it showed on the field.
Hey much respect to U guys by the way:biggrin: I would bet some kids quit due to the high expectations that Smith placed on them. But this does happen all the time at many schools. Not anything wrong with a kid quittin' here or there if it is due to hard work. We all know football is not for lots of kids. It is really living proof that defense does win championships when you look at Boyles title teams over the years. Great players playing together.

03-04-2010, 07:58 AM
Foxtrot Wrote:Boyle had a QB last year that played at 3 high schools. Now they want another transfer to come in and save the day. By the way Coach Chris Pardue layed the groundwork for the state title you guys just got. He suffered through 2 tough seasons and you guys ran him off. No loyalty. If French has a couple of avg. seasons you guys will be saying he is to old or some garbage like that. If Pardue had still been around Boyle would have been right where they were last season. But if we go by the logic you state above maybe coach Harp and Pardue just suddenly became bad coaches and forgot all the football they know. What a laugh. You sound like a parent out ina parking lost somewhere. Give the coach and players a break. :igiveup:
In three years Pardue took a 6 straight title game program to a losing record. But he was laying the foundations? :eyeroll:
The foundation was there before Pardue became head coach. Then it fell out. Pardue was a great OC, but like has been mentioned, he was not a good head coach. He didn't reign in his assistants and he hired a bad OC.
French has one loss in 2 seasons at Boyle. Pardue never approached that in any two seasons.
03-04-2010, 09:49 AM
Hatz Wrote:In three years Pardue took a 6 straight title game program to a losing record. But he was laying the foundations? :eyeroll:
The foundation was there before Pardue became head coach. Then it fell out. Pardue was a great OC, but like has been mentioned, he was not a good head coach. He didn't reign in his assistants and he hired a bad OC.
French has one loss in 2 seasons at Boyle. Pardue never approached that in any two seasons.
Oh well who knows we are only speculating anyway. Coach French does a great job obviously. I was wondering what you mean by reigning in his assistants? I am an outsider as some have posted but just curious to what seems to be the big difference with French at the helm. I have read a couple of things on here like Pardue ran off kids by yelling at them etc. Elaborate if you don't mind. Thanks.
03-04-2010, 12:31 PM
Foxtrot Wrote:Oh well who knows we are only speculating anyway. Coach French does a great job obviously. I was wondering what you mean by reigning in his assistants? I am an outsider as some have posted but just curious to what seems to be the big difference with French at the helm. I have read a couple of things on here like Pardue ran off kids by yelling at them etc. Elaborate if you don't mind. Thanks.
Boyle County is 28-1 over the past 2 years and has gotten a 6th. State Title under French at the helm. In the past 11 seasons Boyle has made no worse that the State Semi's 8 times. Chuck has 6 and French is 2 for 2. IMO that says it all. What happened from 06-08 is in the past. The Rebel Nation has moved on and we are talking about the present. Rings will be in shortly and the field turf will be installed and ready to go for our first home game this year. Things are looking good!
03-06-2010, 11:55 AM
I have read a couple of things on here like Pardue ran off kids by yelling at them etc. Elaborate if you don't mind. Thanks.
Like stated above Coach Pardue is on of the best offensive Coord. in the state but the atmosphere went south quickly because of several things. Chris Pardue didn't run any kids off by yelling at them, There was just a ton of pressure to keep things going and many people; coaches, players and parents did not respond in a productive way. All coach Pardue went on to do was to lead an offense to break several school records his first year as OC. Also Foxtrot I don't think that other poster was being critical of Coach Harps coaching ability, he was making a comment about the Danville fans. Not Harp. And for the record there have been many many more transfers from Boyle to Danville and nobody has ever had a problem with those. All I have ever heard was "you can't blame them wanting to play for a better team". The best QB to play at Danville the last 10 years came from Boyle. Never made the paper to my knowledge. Nothing personal Foxtrot, but there were several people to blame for a rough three year stretch.
Like stated above Coach Pardue is on of the best offensive Coord. in the state but the atmosphere went south quickly because of several things. Chris Pardue didn't run any kids off by yelling at them, There was just a ton of pressure to keep things going and many people; coaches, players and parents did not respond in a productive way. All coach Pardue went on to do was to lead an offense to break several school records his first year as OC. Also Foxtrot I don't think that other poster was being critical of Coach Harps coaching ability, he was making a comment about the Danville fans. Not Harp. And for the record there have been many many more transfers from Boyle to Danville and nobody has ever had a problem with those. All I have ever heard was "you can't blame them wanting to play for a better team". The best QB to play at Danville the last 10 years came from Boyle. Never made the paper to my knowledge. Nothing personal Foxtrot, but there were several people to blame for a rough three year stretch.
04-19-2010, 10:54 PM
French For President Wrote:What about the big lineman that transfered from Boyle to Danville in 2008. I think he signed with Campbellsville Harp didn't turn him away.
The big lineman was kicked off of Boyle and I was glad Danville gave him a second chance. We find out before the end of the month if Dunn will be playing at Boyle. With or without him there will be few teams that will be able to play with Boyle this year. French loved winning state and plans on doing it again! As far as Dunn goes, I hope he gets to be a part of it! He will help us no doubt about that. He will help where ever he goes. He is no Lamar Dawson, but he seems to be a great kid!
04-20-2010, 10:54 AM
Don't see him getting eligible at all unless they get some strings pulled IMO.
04-20-2010, 11:03 AM
Amped 88 Wrote:Don't see him getting eligible at all unless they get some strings pulled IMO.
I'll be surprised if he isn't eligible. Seems like everyone is ruled ineligible initially and the last time I spoke with his father he seemed confident that Will would be ruled eligible. I guess we'll see.....
I hope for his sake, not the team's, he can play.
04-20-2010, 11:07 AM
PurplePride92 Wrote:I'll be surprised if he isn't eligible. Seems like everyone is ruled ineligible initially and the last time I spoke with his father he seemed confident that Will would be ruled eligible. I guess we'll see.....
I hope for his sake, not the team's, he can play.
I think that they will make an example out of him because it is going against the bylaws but you are right I guess that we will see.
04-20-2010, 11:57 AM
Amped 88 Wrote:I think that they will make an example out of him because it is going against the bylaws but you are right I guess that we will see.
I know, we all have our own opinions on this subject and others. We all have our 'hated' rivals. So, here is my opinion...
The rivalry between teams and schools should stay just that. When the hatred comes towards the kids, then that's where the line should be drawn. I hope that Will gets to play. Not because he'd help the team or not help the team. There is alot of 'speculation' that Danville and Harp had a hand in this situation. I would hope that's not the case. Never would I try to destroy a kids career! If it's true about Danville and Harp, then I REALLY hope he plays! This is my opinion ONLY. Take it for what it is...
04-20-2010, 12:14 PM
SportzAnimal Wrote:I know, we all have our own opinions on this subject and others. We all have our 'hated' rivals. So, here is my opinion...
The rivalry between teams and schools should stay just that. When the hatred comes towards the kids, then that's where the line should be drawn. I hope that Will gets to play. Not because he'd help the team or not help the team. There is alot of 'speculation' that Danville and Harp had a hand in this situation. I would hope that's not the case. Never would I try to destroy a kids career! If it's true about Danville and Harp, then I REALLY hope he plays! This is my opinion ONLY. Take it for what it is...
I understand totally. I wish him the best.:Thumbs:
04-20-2010, 04:47 PM
He had his hearing before a judge last Wed. The Judge has two weeks to rule so the final decision should come in a week at the latest and could come any day.
04-21-2010, 10:43 AM
64black&gold Wrote:He had his hearing before a judge last Wed. The Judge has two weeks to rule so the final decision should come in a week at the latest and could come any day.
So are you trying to say that they are going to get an injuction like Highlands did?
04-21-2010, 11:16 AM
Amped 88 Wrote:So are you trying to say that they are going to get an injuction like Highlands did?
Minor technical correction to your post: Highlands did not get the injunction. The player, Mitchell, got the injunction. Actually Highlands was a defendent in the law suit right along with the KHSAA in the legal action. Highlands NEVER asked for the injunction to be issued nor took any legal action to get the KHSAA's eligibility decision overturned by the courts. They never encouraged Mitchell to file the suit and request the injunction. Highlands only involvement in the mess, other than respond to pleadings filed by Mitchell which they were legally obligated to do, was to not play Mitchell when the KHSAA ruled him ineligible; to play Mitchell during the time period the court system ruled him eligible; and to stop playing him when the court system later ruled him ineligible. In other words, Highlands simply complied with the decision of the KHSAA until the court system overruled the KHSAA and later complied with all orders issued by the court system. It seemingly gets lost on a lot of people that the court system's orders and rulings prevail over an administrative agency's decision. And it likewise seemingly gets lost on a lot of people that the KHSAA's own written due process procedures permitted Mitchell to file the suit and get the injunction. Kentucky Revised Statutes Chapter 13B mandate that the KHSAA's final decision be appealable to the court system, whether the KHSAA, schools and fans like it or not. My legal education post for the day is over. LOL.
04-21-2010, 12:03 PM
charlie22 Wrote:Minor technical correction to your post: Highlands did not get the injunction. The player, Mitchell, got the injunction. Actually Highlands was a defendent in the law suit right along with the KHSAA in the legal action. Highlands NEVER asked for the injunction to be issued nor took any legal action to get the KHSAA's eligibility decision overturned by the courts. They never encouraged Mitchell to file the suit and request the injunction. Highlands only involvement in the mess, other than respond to pleadings filed by Mitchell which they were legally obligated to do, was to not play Mitchell when the KHSAA ruled him ineligible; to play Mitchell during the time period the court system ruled him eligible; and to stop playing him when the court system later ruled him ineligible. In other words, Highlands simply complied with the decision of the KHSAA until the court system overruled the KHSAA and later complied with all orders issued by the court system. It seemingly gets lost on a lot of people that the court system's orders and rulings prevail over an administrative agency's decision. And it likewise seemingly gets lost on a lot of people that the KHSAA's own written due process procedures permitted Mitchell to file the suit and get the injunction. Kentucky Revised Statutes Chapter 13B mandate that the KHSAA's final decision be appealable to the court system, whether the KHSAA, schools and fans like it or not. My legal education post for the day is over. LOL.
Thanks for the clarification charlie 22. I didn't want to start that all over again. I just think that if they are going against the KHSAA then why even have them. JMO
04-21-2010, 11:16 PM
The KHSAA made it a point under the leadership that is currently on it's way out, that the transferring student in most cases will be initially ruled ineligible. This appeal was filed by the family, not Boyle County and was expected from day one.
04-21-2010, 11:53 PM
so is there any word on who he will play for next season
04-22-2010, 12:30 AM
Should be a good chance he will play for Boyle next year.
04-23-2010, 03:31 PM
Just heard from pretty solid source that Will Dunn lost his appeal and has been ruled ineligble. I really hate that for him. I hope he can still find a way for him to play at the next level.
04-23-2010, 04:19 PM
Well, there ya have it. I feel bad for him and wish him luck in the future....
04-25-2010, 04:12 PM
There is a story on this in the print version of the Sunday Danville Advocate Messenger. An online story hasn't appeared yet and after the comment section blew up over the last story on this I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't put an online version up.
The Dunn's will be appealing the ruling again and have hired a lawyer out of Lexington for representation.
The Dunn's will be appealing the ruling again and have hired a lawyer out of Lexington for representation.
04-26-2010, 04:52 PM
04-27-2010, 06:41 AM
PurplePride92 Wrote:Online story.
http://www.amnews.com/stories/2010/04/26/spo.299883.sto
Here's hoping the young man gets a chance to play at some sport before he graduates in 2011. :Thumbs:
04-27-2010, 09:03 AM
He can still play at Danville can't he? I mean he dosen't lose that elgibility does he?
04-27-2010, 09:36 AM
The way I take it, he's ineligible at any KY high school. He will not be goin back to Danville, especially now. Would you wanna play for a coach who is trying to blackball your career? I wouldn't!
Good luck to him and his family in their appeal...
Good luck to him and his family in their appeal...
04-27-2010, 10:17 AM
Xerxes Wrote:He can still play at Danville can't he? I mean he dosen't lose that elgibility does he?
From what I've been told that will not happend no matter how this plays out. That Bridge was torched, probably long before January 4th if the truth be known.
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