[RunItUpTheGut]

It like buying a car. Somerset had the choice to keep the Ferrari or to trade it in and get a Civic. They decided to trade for a Civic. There's nothing wrong with Civics as they still get you from point A to point B, but it's no Ferrari. Will they lose money? Yes. Will it be enough to make that much of a difference? I don't think so, but we shall see.

Somerset is the kind of school that when they win, they beat their chest and they're the "team of the town." However, when they lose, they're "just a 2A school playing a 5A school and we're supposed to lose."

This is the exact reason many larger schools wont play there smaller county counterparts.

[Pigskinman53]

When what I've read I think this issue goes beyond the football field. This is a growing rift between county schools and city/independent schools. Basically it comes down to money, and those county schools must feel that they are losing to many kids to Somerset. It was been a few districts that I know of that's went through this same process.

[Old Jumper]

It like buying a car. Somerset had the choice to keep the Ferrari or to trade it in and get a Civic. They decided to trade for a Civic. There's nothing wrong with Civics as they still get you from point A to point B, but it's no Ferrari. Will they lose money? Yes. Will it be enough to make that much of a difference? I don't think so, but we shall see.

Somerset is the kind of school that when they win, they beat their chest and they're the "team of the town." However, when they lose, they're "just a 2A school playing a 5A school and we're supposed to lose."

Good point. "New money" often opts for the fast and shiny Ferraris whereas "Old Money" sticks with the more judicious and dependable alternatives. I've seen lots of Ferraris at bankruptcy auctions, for what it's worth.

[johnnyd]

This is the beginning of the end for Somerset. It's not about the money that they will lose but a policy shift. If in fact the Pulaski School System was trying to put them out of business this will only add fuel to that. Somerset's only hope was to work with the County and this very public showing that it is not will cause lots of problems down the road.

[Shondue]

This is the beginning of the end for Somerset. It's not about the money that they will lose but a policy shift. If in fact the Pulaski School System was trying to put them out of business this will only add fuel to that. Somerset's only hope was to work with the County and this very public showing that it is not will cause lots of problems down the road.

So because Somerset has chosen to not play the county schools they are ready to shut the doors and dissolve the school system, throwing away years of tradition... Right :biglmao:

[Wildcat18]

Good point. "New money" often opts for the fast and shiny Ferraris whereas "Old Money" sticks with the more judicious and dependable alternatives. I've seen lots of Ferraris at bankruptcy auctions, for what it's worth.

That is a good point. However, I was only referring to strictly the series ending on the gridiron with my comparison, not the entire situation with Somerset heading toward a shutdown. That's not going to happen. No one can deny that the RCB will take a significant nosedive. Especially if Somerset only wants to bring in the 1A-3A schools.

[Cardfan1]

You don't have to look very far to see where a once VERY strong Ind school made the wrong moves and the county school soon absorbed it. But all that is beside the point.

The loss of the Don Marshall Payout and how NO ONE you can bring in to the RC Bowl will bring the crowd hurts Somerset more than the county schools.

[Heisenberg Effect]

Hope this doesn't pan out like this. This would be a shame.

[2ndandshort]

This is just my opinion, but if Somerset can bring in neighboring schools to the RCB and only make payouts to those schools rather than splitting the gate 3 ways they could possibly come out ahead. I'm sure Corbin, Wayne Co, Russell Co. and likes of those would travel well. I think this does more harm to the County Schools by them loosing 2 large gates, and if my theory holds true only one for Somerset. I could be wrong

[johnnyd]

So because Somerset has chosen to not play the county schools they are ready to shut the doors and dissolve the school system, throwing away years of tradition... Right :biglmao:

No but the willingness to work together goes a long way. You think that if Pulaski has a chance to stick it to Somerset now that they wont. I said the BEGINNING of the end. This will be a lengthy process. First Somerset will try to increase its limits to take in more people. This is a problem with all Independents. They are land locked. Its hard for new areas of people to move into these zones where as out in the county a new subdivision can spring up anywhere. If the County wants to put the squeeze on Somerset they can and really there is little Somerset can do about it.

[JumperPride1]

No but the willingness to work together goes a long way. You think that if Pulaski has a chance to stick it to Somerset now that they wont. I said the BEGINNING of the end. This will be a lengthy process. First Somerset will try to increase its limits to take in more people. This is a problem with all Independents. They are land locked. Its hard for new areas of people to move into these zones where as out in the county a new subdivision can spring up anywhere. If the County wants to put the squeeze on Somerset they can and really there is little Somerset can do about it.

The original enrollment contract proposed by the county school system allowed for students located within the somerset school district to attend PC schools with seek money following each, without a reciprocation clause. The number of students "allowed" to go to the city schools has dropped from the 700 range in the early 2000's to its most recent number of 240 students, with seek money following. A loss of 240 students, for a school district the size of somerset independent is a massive hit, whereas this is a drop in the bucket for our county counterparts. All of that said, I don't think it was initially an unwillingness for somerset schools to "work" with the county schools, I think the partnership was strong, the county chose to cancel a contract that has been in place for a very long period of time. Seems it was the county that has the issue of working with the city, and as previously stated in an earlier post why would somerset want to do business with an entity that is trying to slit their throat?

[crazysprtgy]

Does anybody know how becoming an Urban city/county would affect this. If I am not mistaking that is a possibility for Pulaski County. Would the zones still stand. I would almost bet some PCBE decision to not let Somerset keep the students could or may be related to Somersets mayor not willing to hear or be part of the Urban development talks....

[Wildcat18]

It's simple. Somerset did not want to play AT Pulaski or AT Southwestern. They wanted ALL games to be played at the Briar Patch. Crap or get off the pot. Guess they got off the pot.

[JumperPride1]

It's simple. Somerset did not want to play AT Pulaski or AT Southwestern. They wanted ALL games to be played at the Briar Patch. Crap or get off the pot. Guess they got off the pot.

This isn't the case. Somerset travels to some pretty big football names across the region (Belfry being one). Not sure this has anything to do with venue.

[Old Jumper]

This isn't the case. Somerset travels to some pretty big football names across the region (Belfry being one). Not sure this has anything to do with venue.

Exactly; Somerset's decision has nothing to do with venue. It does, however, have everything to do with present company.

For instance, I note in the linked article that after Somerset announced they would not renew the DMB contract after this season, PC and SW announced that in retaliation, they would not participate in the Ray Correll Bowl. However, nowhere is it confirmed that either team was even invited to remain in the Correll Bowl after 2014. They were not.

It has nothing to do with venue, Pulaski schools; it's you. Godspeed. Vaya con dios. Don't let the screen door hitcha. Adieu. Alvederzane. Adios. Don't go away mad. If the phone doesn't ring, it's me. Get it?

It's better this way. You'll find someone else.

[Catfan09]

This isn't the case. Somerset travels to some pretty big football names across the region (Belfry being one). Not sure this has anything to do with venue.

Wildcat didn't say they didn't travel, everyone has away games. The statement was they don't want to play AT Southwestern or AT Pulaski. As far as the contracts go, both Southwestern and Pulaski are ranked in the top 3% of the state academically. The only thing i have noticed the jumpers have on them is arrogance (tradition?)

[JumperPride1]

Wildcat didn't say they didn't travel, everyone has away games. The statement was they don't want to play AT Southwestern or AT Pulaski. As far as the contracts go, both Southwestern and Pulaski are ranked in the top 3% of the state academically. The only thing i have noticed the jumpers have on them is arrogance (tradition?)

Right playing AT someone's place would be travel, change of venue, or an away game? Am I incorrect or just arrogant?

[Wildcat18]

Exactly; Somerset's decision has nothing to do with venue. It does, however, have everything to do with present company.

For instance, I note in the linked article that after Somerset announced they would not renew the DMB contract after this season, PC and SW announced that in retaliation, they would not participate in the Ray Correll Bowl. However, nowhere is it confirmed that either team was even invited to remain in the Correll Bowl after 2014. They were not.

It has nothing to do with venue, Pulaski schools; it's you. Godspeed. Vaya con dios. Don't let the screen door hitcha. Adieu. Alvederzane. Adios. Don't go away mad. If the phone doesn't ring, it's me. Get it?

It's better this way. You'll find someone else.

This comment is hilarious. That's like going to a bar with your buddies and choosing the 6 over the 10 because you think you'd have a better shot at taking her home. Playing it safe because it's the more secure decision. You still get what you want, but it's not what it could have been. Come on man. You don't believe that garbage do you?

Outside of bringing in the Alabama Crimson Tide, there is no way Somerset makes as much money overall at the RCB without the participation of Pulaski and Southwestern.

[Catfan09]

Right playing AT someone's place would be travel, change of venue, or an away game? Am I incorrect or just arrogant?

Evidently ignorant, you missed the whole point.

[Old Jumper]

That's like going to a bar with your buddies and choosing the 6 over the 10 because you think you'd have a better shot at taking her home. Playing it safe because it's the more secure decision. You still get what you want, but it's not what it could have been. Come on man. You don't believe that garbage do you?

A "10"? Really? Not quite. When she's really dressed up (and after a couple beers) she's an "8", tops. Now, who's the arrogant one, again?

Regardless, this has been much more than a bar pick-up. We've been married to her for ten years. And we dated for more than ten years even before that.

But lately, she has decided to quit putting out, and even though we give her two-thirds of everything we make, she keeps going through our wallet.

No, time to part.

[JumperPride1]

Evidently ignorant, you missed the whole point.

No I understood the point completely. Pulaski County Schools being in the top 3% in the state (17th actually statewide), didn't the state department of education recently (within the past year) take over several facets of PC Schools? Maybe not at Southwestern, they've always been a good academic school but Pulaski? Regardless this is a football issue.

They played SWHS AT SWHS last year and will play PC this year AT PC. The RCB just makes sense to be hosted by Somerset.

[johnnyd]

A "10"? Really? Not quite. When she's really dressed up (and after a couple beers) she's an "8", tops. Now, who's the arrogant one, again?

Regardless, this has been much more than a bar pick-up. We've been married to her for ten years. And we dated for more than ten years even before that.

But lately, she has decided to quit putting out, and even though we give her two-thirds of everything we make, she keeps going through our wallet.

No, time to part.

Yes but remember when you part ways its going a be ugly most the time and lots of times she's going to take you for everything she can in a lot of ways. Plus she's going to take half but she's going to want more. Since kids are involved and you made her mad there's going to be heck to pay in every situation involving kids. Oh yea and you remember when you did that little thing that you thought no one would find out about it, she knows it and now will use it to further put you under. You better walk the line because she now has more money, more leverage and a bigger house than you do. She's going to make you miserable for the remainder of her life because you now cannot stand one another and you did it publicly. Women have a longer average life span than men.

Since you was comparing this situation to a relationship I figured I'd tell you how this was going to end.

[Cellking]

No I understood the point completely. Pulaski County Schools being in the top 3% in the state (17th actually statewide), didn't the state department of education recently (within the past year) take over several facets of PC Schools? Maybe not at Southwestern, they've always been a good academic school but Pulaski? Regardless this is a football issue.

They played SWHS AT SWHS last year and will play PC this year AT PC. The RCB just makes sense to be hosted by Somerset.

Better watch out they will try to take the RCB from you also.:biglmao::biglmao:

[Cardfan1]

Yes but remember when you part ways its going a be ugly most the time and lots of times she's going to take you for everything she can in a lot of ways. Plus she's going to take half but she's going to want more. Since kids are involved and you made her mad there's going to be heck to pay in every situation involving kids. Oh yea and you remember when you did that little thing that you thought no one would find out about it, she knows it and now will use it to further put you under. You better walk the line because she now has more money, more leverage and a bigger house than you do. She's going to make you miserable for the remainder of her life because you now cannot stand one another and you did it publicly. Women have a longer average life span than men.

Since you was comparing this situation to a relationship I figured I'd tell you how this was going to end.

This comparison made every man reading this stomach drop.

[Wildcat18]

A "10"? Really? Not quite. When she's really dressed up (and after a couple beers) she's an "8", tops. Now, who's the arrogant one, again?

Regardless, this has been much more than a bar pick-up. We've been married to her for ten years. And we dated for more than ten years even before that.

But lately, she has decided to quit putting out, and even though we give her two-thirds of everything we make, she keeps going through our wallet.

No, time to part.

Just for the record, I never said anything about Somerset being arrogant. My point is there is no way possible that SHS will bring in the caliber teams (fan/money-wise) to keep up with the monetary gain from having PC and SW in the RCB. If you don't acknowledge that, I guess you're just that stubborn or you really are that blind. It's obvious they don't want to travel across town. It's also obvious that they "prefer" not to play anyone over the 3A class unless they have a pretty good feeling they can beat them. I promise you this, 10 years down the road...new coaches, new fans, new teams...if/when SHS has a team to compete with the other local schools, they'll be reaching out to play again...but only for a couple of seasons, then back into hibernation or whatever bunnies do. ONLY when they think they can win. There's nothing wrong with dating a 6, some standards are higher than others. It's ok Jumpers. :HitWall:

[Old Jumper]

Yes but remember when you part ways its going a be ugly most the time and lots of times she's going to take you for everything she can in a lot of ways. Plus she's going to take half but she's going to want more. Since kids are involved and you made her mad there's going to be heck to pay in every situation involving kids. Oh yea and you remember when you did that little thing that you thought no one would find out about it, she knows it and now will use it to further put you under. You better walk the line because she now has more money, more leverage and a bigger house than you do. She's going to make you miserable for the remainder of her life because you now cannot stand one another and you did it publicly. Women have a longer average life span than men.

Since you was comparing this situation to a relationship I figured I'd tell you how this was going to end.

Anna Nicole . . . when will you learn that harboring such resentment and vindictiveness only hurts yourself. You've staggered down this road before. It doesn't end like you think it does.

And no, I will not appear on "Jerry Springer" with you.

[ColtPride]

I would like to know what the former players of each team think about this. As a former player at Pulaski. I hate it. Local politics getting in the way of a game, that I'm sure all the players want to play. There's nothing like taping up in the locker room knowing your cross town rival is doing the same.
Let the kids play, and keep the politics out of it.

[kyfun]

This is more about SHS Football saving face then its about students from Pulaski going to SHS. SHS has one of the worst teams they have every had this year and will be down several years. Its hard to brag about going to the final 4 in 2A when you lose by 30 or more to the local teams. If SHS Football team was strong they would have no problem playing the county schools.

[JumperPride1]

This is more about SHS Football saving face then its about students from Pulaski going to SHS. SHS has one of the worst teams they have every had this year and will be down several years. Its hard to brag about going to the final 4 in 2A when you lose by 30 or more to the local teams. If SHS Football team was strong they would have no problem playing the county schools.

I think you're off base on this one, Somerset will likely be down THIS year, but they will return everything in 2015. They are locked into playing both PC and SWHS THIS coming year, so I don't think this is about "saving face." Somerset's scheduling over the past five years surely has proven that they're not afraid of playing anyone. And this year I still think they're a top 10 2A team even in a "down year," why do they have to compete with their bigger county counterparts? They're going to play both this year, and I believe if you look at Somerset's overall record vs. the county programs (both PC and SW) Somerset owns the head to head and I wouldn't be surprised if its by a large margin.

No this is about more than football, but nice try.

[kyfun]

I know they play this year but SHS is desperate to get out of this matchup after they took a beating last year from PC. I do agree that SHS has in the past played whoever and did well, but those days are gone. Bringing back everyone with no talent just means that you now have Juniors and Seniors with no talent. SHS will just move to playing the bottom feeders in Kentucky High School Football. SHS has a chance to play the best in 5A for the next few years in Football and did not feel they are up to the challenge.