[Moose Nuck]

Very good possibility in this game that JC wins for the first time, 3 games in a row in this rivalry. Paintsville just has to go into the game with the mindset that they can hang with those boys. Only 11 players for each team can play at a time, they need to get a little grit in their crawl and go balls out. They have to play this game for the full 48 minutes, no plays taken off. Know their assignments, follow the game plan from JTA, and execute it to perfection then they should come out on top. I'm divided in this game, I got family on one side, and my former high school on the other. I just hope its a competitive injury free game. After this game both teams will be fighting for good position spots going into the playoffs, I just hope this game doesn't get either one side tracked from those plans.

[Moose Nuck]

All I'm saying Golden Eagle is remember this game when you all are playing in the Semi-Finals (like JC should be) against them NKY boys and they beat the tar out of you. It's a whole nother world up there, trust me, we thought we were good in 01' and we found out QUICK just how good we really were and look at the players and athletes we had.

Yeah I remember that beat down, we were down like 50-8 at the half. I still think that if we don't get off to the worst possible start that any high school team in america can have we get beat by 30 instead of 50. Every turn over we had NCC took advantage of it. That NCC team should've won state, but was defeated by 1 vs. Danville. This was much like last years Apple Bowl, every time PHS turned the ball over, it resulted in great field position and points on the board. If they can limit their turnovers, have some sort of running game to open up the passing game, you've got to like Paintsville's chances better. Its a rivalry game and those games seem to always make the underdog play above their ability.

[Meade]

It's gonna be bad news for paintsville. End of story

[Old School]

How many of those kids focused on just football though? Schools that are big 3As or 4As have an advantage IMO. Since there are so many kids, then that means that the football players focus on football only, the basketball focuses on basketball only, and so on. Most of the kids at Paintsville play at least 2 sports and have to divide their time up to choose what they want to get better at. So yes there is somewhat of an advantage. No matter how many players on a team that there are. There is a reason that football is separated into classes.

Most of the football players do play other sports very few play football only. I agree that when a 3A or 4A school has 60 to 80 player and they play a 1A school with 30 players they should win most of the time. That has not be the case with JC over the years. Most years they would have only 30 to 35 players on the team with about only 15 or so getting most of the playing time.

[Iron_Man5]

Johnson will man-handle paintsville

[MVP2]

Johnson will man-handle paintsville

Couldnt said it better, but i hope Pugh can lead his team to a upset!

JC-58
Paintsville-6

[Old school Dawg]

When was Central up 60 points? The final score was 50-6. Listen to the pot calling the kettle black when talking about class and respect. Ask Betsy Layne this year how much class Paintsville showed them with there starters in during the fourth while leading 65-14. Let’s ask Allan Central, Phelps, Jenkins, Betsy Layne, and South Floyd fans how much class Paintsville has showed them in the past. I just think it's funny that after all these years of whipping up on the teams mentioned above you and the rest of the clan expect someone to show you some respect and class.

If Johnson Central beats them bad dont feel bad for Paintsville because they have been beating teams bad with no mercy when they could since I moved to KY in 73.Im not saying this is good or bad just that it is a fact they have never showed mercy on a team weaker than them,,,,never

[Old school Dawg]

Johnson Central 60 Paintsville 21

[Golden Eagle]

If Johnson Central beats them bad dont feel bad for Paintsville because they have been beating teams bad with no mercy when they could since I moved to KY in 73.Im not saying this is good or bad just that it is a fact they have never showed mercy on a team weaker than them,,,,never

I agree.

[Old school Dawg]

Thank you Golden Eagle.

[OK2NV]

All you PHS fans want to talk about class and all that crap, how about against PHELPS this last wk. Up big and onside kicking it after every score even late in the 4th. Yea thats some real class. Pugh and Humphries and Cantrell and Sublet all in the game till the final whistle. I guess you have a good explanation for that like always. I don't want to here anything else about class till PHS shows some

[Cookie Crisp]

im taken the eagles in this one BIG

[Old school Dawg]

All you PHS fans want to talk about class and all that crap, how about against PHELPS this last wk. Up big and onside kicking it after every score even late in the 4th. Yea thats some real class. Pugh and Humphries and Cantrell and Sublet all in the game till the final whistle. I guess you have a good explanation for that like always. I don't want to here anything else about class till PHS shows some

The worst thing playing those guys late in a game is taking a chance on getting a player hurt.

[OK2NV]

The worst thing playing those guys late in a game is taking a chance on getting a player hurt.

Thats the truth also how about against Betsy Layne Pugh returning punts and playing into the 4th period.

[PC_U_KNOW_98]

All you PHS fans want to talk about class and all that crap, how about against PHELPS this last wk. Up big and onside kicking it after every score even late in the 4th. Yea thats some real class. Pugh and Humphries and Cantrell and Sublet all in the game till the final whistle. I guess you have a good explanation for that like always. I don't want to here anything else about class till PHS shows some

This next post came from a Phelps fan in the Paintsville/Phelps thread:

This was actually a better played game than what the score says..... At the end of the 3rd quarter the score was 23-16... Phelps scored 1st!! They really played well tonight but just don't have any kids to move in and out and it wore them down!! Congrats to both teams on a well played game!!!

Don't sound like to me Paintsville was ever up big until late in the 4th when they finally put it away. And those aren't onside kicks OK2NV, that's called not having anyone who can kick a ball farther than 10 yards. Didn't see Paintsville lining up to kick an onside, did you, it's called a "squib" kick. There is a big difference when you put a game away in the 4th quarter as to putting it away in the 1st. Like I said earlier, David LeMaster NEVER ran up the score and tried to embarass anyone because he is the most classy guy you will ever meet, he has to kind of a heart to do that. Like I said earlier, when I was a freshman and sophomore we scored points and shut starting line-ups down, there is nothing a coach can do about that when his JV team is scoring points and shutting down the other teams offense. Paintsville doesn't have enough players to substitute every starter on their team on both sides of the ball. JC will beat Paintsville by as many as Matney wants to. If he does what he did last year then JC will score at least 80 points and Paintsville will be lucky to gain 50 yards of total offense. You can say what you want, but JTA has put in his younger players every game that Paintsville has been up big, and I'm not talkin about the last couple minutes, his young players have got ALOT of playing time.

[PC_U_KNOW_98]

The worst thing playing those guys late in a game is taking a chance on getting a player hurt.

That's what I said about last years Apple Bowl when JC had a good chance at winning the region, this year is not different except for the fact that they SHOULD win the region, they are better this year than last IMO.

[TRAIN85]

Thats the truth also how about against Betsy Layne Pugh returning punts and playing into the 4th period.

They play him late in games and up big so he can pad his stats. Thats all i keep hearing about the kid, is how he wants his stats(winning is optional just as long as he played well as an individual). Its supposed to be about the team.
I hope Johnson Central scores triple digits on them. If the kids at Pikeville want to play football they need to go to central. IMO of course.

[OK2NV]

This next post came from a Phelps fan in the Paintsville/Phelps thread:



Don't sound like to me Paintsville was ever up big until late in the 4th when they finally put it away. And those aren't onside kicks OK2NV, that's called not having anyone who can kick a ball farther than 10 yards. Didn't see Paintsville lining up to kick an onside, did you, it's called a "squib" kick. There is a big difference when you put a game away in the 4th quarter as to putting it away in the 1st. Like I said earlier, David LeMaster NEVER ran up the score and tried to embarrass anyone because he is the most classy guy you will ever meet, he has to kind of a heart to do that. Like I said earlier, when I was a freshman and sophomore we scored points and shut starting line-ups down, there is nothing a coach can do about that when his JV team is scoring points and shutting down the other teams offense. Paintsville doesn't have enough players to substitute every starter on their team on both sides of the ball. JC will beat Paintsville by as many as Matney wants to. If he does what he did last year then JC will score at least 80 points and Paintsville will be lucky to gain 50 yards of total offense. You can say what you want, but JTA has put in his younger players every game that Paintsville has been up big, and I'm not talking about the last couple minutes, his young players have got ALOT of playing time.

I am sorry a squib kick is not lining up and kicking the ball or toping the ball to the PHS sideline causing the other team to fumble. Most of those kicks barely went 10 yds. and you can't tell me their is no one on that team who can't kick it 10 yds. Thats absurd or whatever! I hope that the Tigers don't squib kick everytime this wk. You don't want to give JCHS any shorter field to work with!

Good luck to both teams and I hope this and an injury free game.

[Whos next?]

jc 68-6

[hillbilly]

JC - 58

Pville - 6

[Udon'tKnowMe]

I am sorry a squib kick is not lining up and kicking the ball or toping the ball to the PHS sideline causing the other team to fumble. Most of those kicks barely went 10 yds. and you can't tell me their is no one on that team who can't kick it 10 yds. Thats absurd or whatever! I hope that the Tigers don't squib kick everytime this wk. You don't want to give JCHS any shorter field to work with!

Good luck to both teams and I hope this and an injury free game.

We've tried to kick it deep 3 times this year, and 2 of those kicks were returned for a TD. I know that the short kicks are giving the opposing team a short field to work with, but its better than a TD. The philosophy behind kicking it to our sideline, is that is gives the returning team even less room to work with when trying to set up a return. We try to kick it to around the 30-35 yard line but it doesn't always work that way.

Also, as PC98 has said, when you only have 20+ players, some of the starters are going to be in the game the whole time. If we take Pugh out, he is going to be replaced by another starter, so this arguement is kinda splitting hairs. Everyone on the roster played in the Phelps, Allen Central, Betsy Layne, and Jenkins games. How many games has Central played let's say 50+ players?

[Whos next?]

We've tried to kick it deep 3 times this year, and 2 of those kicks were returned for a TD. I know that the short kicks are giving the opposing team a short field to work with, but its better than a TD. The philosophy behind kicking it to our sideline, is that is gives the returning team even less room to work with when trying to set up a return. We try to kick it to around the 30-35 yard line but it doesn't always work that way.

Also, as PC98 has said, when you only have 20+ players, some of the starters are going to be in the game the whole time. If we take Pugh out, he is going to be replaced by another starter, so this arguement is kinda splitting hairs. Everyone on the roster played in the Phelps, Allen Central, Betsy Layne, and Jenkins games. How many games has Central played let's say 50+ players?

Every game this year.

[Battle Tested]

i would hope diferent but my beloved tigers are going down in this one. this one will hurt. ouch.

[Hard Hitter]

We've tried to kick it deep 3 times this year, and 2 of those kicks were returned for a TD. I know that the short kicks are giving the opposing team a short field to work with, but its better than a TD. The philosophy behind kicking it to our sideline, is that is gives the returning team even less room to work with when trying to set up a return. We try to kick it to around the 30-35 yard line but it doesn't always work that way.

Also, as PC98 has said, when you only have 20+ players, some of the starters are going to be in the game the whole time. If we take Pugh out, he is going to be replaced by another starter, so this arguement is kinda splitting hairs. Everyone on the roster played in the Phelps, Allen Central, Betsy Layne, and Jenkins games. How many games has Central played let's say 50+ players?

They have played 50+ every game this year....

[Hard Hitter]

It will get that bad Tomcat because Matney won't let up on Paintsville. He still had his starters in the 4th quarter last year when they were up 60 points. I just hope that after he does that again this year, they win the region and Highlands sees what he did and does the same thing to him.

My prediction:

If Matney keeps his starters in like the past 2 seasons, minimum 80 points.
If he shows a little respect and class, minimum 40 points.

We know what it feels like to get beat into the ground.. Did you forget the Humphreys and Ross ERAs we were horrible.

[Moose Nuck]

We know what it feels like to get beat into the ground.. Did you forget the Humphreys and Ross ERAs we were horrible.

Those eras were horrible for JC, but not in the Apple Bowl. My Junior year when we went to the Final Four we could've put 70 up on JC, but we didn't, we kept it reasonable with a score like 48-20. The next year was a great game in Ross' was an exciting one 45-30 with Chat Yates finding the enzone 5 times but the Tigers winning in the final minutes. Then the following year was a nail biter, with Paintsville coming out on top. Even when Central was down, and down big, they can't say that Paintsville ran the score up, I just hope its kept to a respectable margin. Today, I finally saw Michael Bush since he broke his leg. I told him about the game and if he had any advice for a Paintsville team thats a huge under dog. He brought up the Miami game down at the Orange Bowl two seasons ago where they about pulled off one of the largest upsets. He said Petrino told them to believe in one another, believe in their ability, don't get down on one another when something goes wrong. You may not be the most experienced or the greatest team, but for one night if you all can bring it all together on a grand stage, on that one night you can be champions. All you have to do is believe. With that being said I told him thanks and he went on his way. Paintsville just take this advice, you may not come out on top, but on this one night if you believe in one another I'm sure you won't have anything to hang your head about.

[JCHSfootball]

JCHS will win BIG!!!! I can't wait to see #20get another 200 yards and 4 tds.

[PC_U_KNOW_98]

They play him late in games and up big so he can pad his stats. Thats all i keep hearing about the kid, is how he wants his stats(winning is optional just as long as he played well as an individual). Its supposed to be about the team.
I hope Johnson Central scores triple digits on them. If the kids at Pikeville want to play football they need to go to central. IMO of course.

Whoever told you that if full of alot of BS. Daniel Pugh is the MOST competitive kid I have ever seen, he hates losing more than ANYTHING.

And what's the remark about Pikeville kids needing to go to JC if they wanna play football, they have a pretty darn good football program, always have. Why did they get brought into any of this talk between Paintsville/JC.

[Udon'tKnowMe]

They have played 50+ every game this year....

So I should expect the very same come Friday.

[-STAT-]

Johnson Central will destroy Paintsville. I predict 70-6