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I didn't ignore Mr. Kimball. I haven't been on site today. I usually just look at sports sections of site.
..Many parts of bill take effect now including large pool purchasing power for people without insurance with pre-existing conditons.
.There are tax credits for small businesses that buy insurance coverage for employees. All businesses under 50 employees are exempt from any requirements on employers. None have to buy coverage for employees but have to pay fine for employees that will require government subsidies to buy it on their own.
.So yes small businesses get tax credits and as I said employers with less than 50 employees are exempt from all requirements of responsibility for employees.
.I get news from many sources. Like Associated Press,CNN,wire services like Reuters and non partisan networks(Unlike FOX).
.The taxes are a Meciare payroll tax on incomes of individuals making over $200,000 a year or couple making $250,000. And high end insurance policies beginning in 2018(as you recall John McCain proposed taxing those policies and it wasn't Obama's first choice).And House dramatically raised the thresholds at which it would be imposed.
.As for government control there is in the sense that some abusive practices will end including denying coverage for people with pre existing conditions,lifetime caps,arbitrary rate hikes and dropping coverage when you get sick. But insurance will still be purchased by individuals or employers with government having subsidies mentioned before.
.No illegal immigrant is covered in the bill. In fact they are specifically excluded.
.There is no government funding for abortion either. In fact there was an executive order today stating what was already in bill NO Federal fudning of abortion. If people want those services or insurance that covers it they have to pay for it. The government does not. As with existing law it only excludes rape,incest and life of mother.
.Pelosi wasn't saying Democrats or president don't what it is in the bill. They do. She is saying with all misinformation and scare tactics by opponents with myths like death panels now people will see that was all false.
.And we heard the same charges of socialism etc. against Medicare and Social Security.
..Don't forget the bill closes the doughnut hole for senior citizens. They will have reduced prices on drugs beginning next year.
..Don't forget government subsidizes premiums for families of four up to $88,000 a year income. Nor that Medicaid is expanded to 133% of federal poverty level and it goes into effect that young adults can stay on parents policy until age 26.
..The deficit is reduced according to nonparisan Congressional Budget Office by $138 billion over the next ten years and $1.2 trillion in following decade.
..The fact is the bill will create millions of jobs. As well as cover 32 million more Americans and end abusive practices like denying coverage based on pre existing conditions, lifetime limits and dropping people from insurance when they get sick.
..Don't forget who supports bill including American Association of Retired People and American Medical Association among many other groups. Without the bill in the next decade there would be 17 million more uninsured than there are now.