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01-12-2010, 07:50 PM
Morals hunh? Morally, I am bound at my responsibility to take care of my family. Regardless of what I do to my family, it is still my responsibility to take care of my family. While I understand this morally I feel bound to help those in my community at any cost.
Do you think that a professional athlete is driven by their love of the game, and that alone? No way that Kobe sticks with the LA Lakers unless he he paid to play there than anyone else that he could go to. Do you think that Lebron next season say's "hey, Cleveland is my home town. I'm going to stay here because it's my home, only ask for the same money that I am making now, and ask that the owners bring in a bunch of other players and pay them at an equal pay range" as he is making? Please, he is headed for the biggest salary in the history of sports. Why? Because he can. He can be just as content with the $50M a year that he makes in contract and endorsements by staying where he is, but there's a fat chance that he is not the first $100M a year man within the next couple of seasons! But is that morally wrong? Not is you ask the children of the "King James" foundation where his name and money does more for children across the World with every dime that he makes more than the previous year! That is fine but once again you are bringing into conversation something that we was not previously talking about once again this does not pertain to any one leaving one school for another and vise versa.
So, Pitino was morally wrong for taking a job that took him from $3M to $12M per year (after endorsements). Where does that extra money go? Well, he had more to use to set his family and his family's family up that he couldn't at UK. He has always been considerably generous in giving to charity's. My guess is that his giving to charity's increased considerably. Was making an opportunity to give more to charity morally wrong? Was setting his childrens children up for life wrong morally? He left for all the right reasons. From my stand point and morals yes I do not like the decision and I do not respect the decision. IMO and this has been my standpoint since I was 12 if a coach is happy with his school, and players then there is no reason to leave when you are making millions. To say this is going to better my family for the future my god you are making millions already lol. Yes a challenge fair enough, the biggest challenge in the NBA is getting guy who are making more than you to listen to you.
What he did in his personal life had nothing to do with him leaving UK for a better situation for everyone in his life. Seriously, your argument is his personal life, your argument is against my statement is exactly what your saying it does not pertain to.
As for the High School, do you think he's going to do it for free? Do you work for free? If someone is going to offer you twice as much to do exactly what you do in your job today, but you decide you don't want the money, that wasn't a moral decision. It may have been a right decision, but it had nothing to do with morals. If you take the job that someone offers that is twice as much, then you have just given your family twice as much than they had before. But by giving them twice as much, was that a morally wrong decision? Nope I do not think he is going to do it for free because I think him, Petrino and etc are greedy people. Yes I do alot for free. I referee soccer games for free, I have coached for free, I have helped areas for free, I have helped with camps for free. What I gain from it is great relationships with great people and peace of mind that I have helped kids in their walk with life.
I'm not in as much disagreement than you may think, but I don't think morals has anything to do with a person making a better life for themself. And sometimes just taking the challenge to do something that you have not ever done is good enough. Did Pitino really leave because he didn't like UK, or he wanted the extra dough in his pocket? Probably neither. Pitino left because it was a challenge to him. If it was for the challenge then I would retract my assumptions and statement. But the fact that the money was there and he has been on record by saying that money did persuade his decision that is "morals". Definition "ethical motive: motivation based on ideas of right and wrong". My decision is cause and effect, I do A) by motivation by an outside motive and it affects these people. Now are these people my family as I have refered to them as so many times or are they not who ive said they are and am thinking about my self?
Did Cal leave Memphis because it was about the money? I don't know, but he just doubled his salary. He sure didn't come to UK just for the pride and prestige at coaching the Most successful program in history. If that was the case, then why did his salary double? Pretty sure because he wanted it to. Did he come to UK bacause he could win more at UK than at Memphis? I don't know why he would have thought that, he already was winning more at Memphis than did the UK program was already winning. He was going to win and compete for Final Fours at Memphis, so did he morally wrong the University of Memphis for leaving them. Not to me he didn't. He wanted the challenge, well, the money that comes with it to! Do I have a problem with that? No Way! Honestly I do not think money played apart in this decision. It has already been stated on record my Cal and Memphis that he would have been making more money if he had stayed.
As I have said my view is different and that is fine by me. But to say doesn't have to do with someones morals to me is an incorrect statement.:Thumbs:
Do you think that a professional athlete is driven by their love of the game, and that alone? No way that Kobe sticks with the LA Lakers unless he he paid to play there than anyone else that he could go to. Do you think that Lebron next season say's "hey, Cleveland is my home town. I'm going to stay here because it's my home, only ask for the same money that I am making now, and ask that the owners bring in a bunch of other players and pay them at an equal pay range" as he is making? Please, he is headed for the biggest salary in the history of sports. Why? Because he can. He can be just as content with the $50M a year that he makes in contract and endorsements by staying where he is, but there's a fat chance that he is not the first $100M a year man within the next couple of seasons! But is that morally wrong? Not is you ask the children of the "King James" foundation where his name and money does more for children across the World with every dime that he makes more than the previous year! That is fine but once again you are bringing into conversation something that we was not previously talking about once again this does not pertain to any one leaving one school for another and vise versa.
So, Pitino was morally wrong for taking a job that took him from $3M to $12M per year (after endorsements). Where does that extra money go? Well, he had more to use to set his family and his family's family up that he couldn't at UK. He has always been considerably generous in giving to charity's. My guess is that his giving to charity's increased considerably. Was making an opportunity to give more to charity morally wrong? Was setting his childrens children up for life wrong morally? He left for all the right reasons. From my stand point and morals yes I do not like the decision and I do not respect the decision. IMO and this has been my standpoint since I was 12 if a coach is happy with his school, and players then there is no reason to leave when you are making millions. To say this is going to better my family for the future my god you are making millions already lol. Yes a challenge fair enough, the biggest challenge in the NBA is getting guy who are making more than you to listen to you.
What he did in his personal life had nothing to do with him leaving UK for a better situation for everyone in his life. Seriously, your argument is his personal life, your argument is against my statement is exactly what your saying it does not pertain to.
As for the High School, do you think he's going to do it for free? Do you work for free? If someone is going to offer you twice as much to do exactly what you do in your job today, but you decide you don't want the money, that wasn't a moral decision. It may have been a right decision, but it had nothing to do with morals. If you take the job that someone offers that is twice as much, then you have just given your family twice as much than they had before. But by giving them twice as much, was that a morally wrong decision? Nope I do not think he is going to do it for free because I think him, Petrino and etc are greedy people. Yes I do alot for free. I referee soccer games for free, I have coached for free, I have helped areas for free, I have helped with camps for free. What I gain from it is great relationships with great people and peace of mind that I have helped kids in their walk with life.
I'm not in as much disagreement than you may think, but I don't think morals has anything to do with a person making a better life for themself. And sometimes just taking the challenge to do something that you have not ever done is good enough. Did Pitino really leave because he didn't like UK, or he wanted the extra dough in his pocket? Probably neither. Pitino left because it was a challenge to him. If it was for the challenge then I would retract my assumptions and statement. But the fact that the money was there and he has been on record by saying that money did persuade his decision that is "morals". Definition "ethical motive: motivation based on ideas of right and wrong". My decision is cause and effect, I do A) by motivation by an outside motive and it affects these people. Now are these people my family as I have refered to them as so many times or are they not who ive said they are and am thinking about my self?
Did Cal leave Memphis because it was about the money? I don't know, but he just doubled his salary. He sure didn't come to UK just for the pride and prestige at coaching the Most successful program in history. If that was the case, then why did his salary double? Pretty sure because he wanted it to. Did he come to UK bacause he could win more at UK than at Memphis? I don't know why he would have thought that, he already was winning more at Memphis than did the UK program was already winning. He was going to win and compete for Final Fours at Memphis, so did he morally wrong the University of Memphis for leaving them. Not to me he didn't. He wanted the challenge, well, the money that comes with it to! Do I have a problem with that? No Way! Honestly I do not think money played apart in this decision. It has already been stated on record my Cal and Memphis that he would have been making more money if he had stayed.
As I have said my view is different and that is fine by me. But to say doesn't have to do with someones morals to me is an incorrect statement.:Thumbs:
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