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'Godless' billboard greets I-71 drivers
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Wildcatk23 Wrote:I'm not trying to change anyones mind. This isn't a religious discussion, I'm just making it clear that this country wasn't found on Christian morals.


Madison's most famous statement on behalf of religious liberty was his Memorial and Remonstrance Against Religious Assessments, which he wrote to oppose a bill that would have authorized tax support for Christian ministers in the state of Virginia.
Other sources for Madison's beliefs are his letter to Jasper Adams, where he argues on behalf of letting religion survive on its own merits, and a 1792 article in which he suggests that there is no specific religious sanction for American government.


No matter how hard conservative apologists for the Christian Right try, they cannot locate endorsements of religion, God, theism, or Christianity in the Constitution. At no point does the Constitution exhibit anything less than a fully secular, godless character. The American Constitution was a novel experiment in the creation of a secular government on the basis of popular sovereignty and democratic principles.

I think you missed my point completely. You referenced the declaration as being unique, although it points toward anything other than a Godless nation. The belief that kings get their power from god has been universally held up until this point, and through the forming a new nation, this would be changed to a popular government. But what we see, is that Washington was offered a monarchy himself. Thus, not being radically different than the pre-USA governments. He declined, thankfully.

Now, if you do your studying, you'll come to realize what this federal government is... its a union between sovereign states. Of which, all 50 now point to God in their constitutions. The reason the federal government isn't involved in religion, is because all the states were and most likely always will be. The premise of my post, is that you're arguement at best, is weak. At worst, horrible.

To say that this nation wasn't founded as a christian nation, is somewhat misleading. You can realistically say that the federal government however isn't in the business of religion, or the union between the states aren't 'christian bonds'. But the founders of the states, intended it to be a christian 'nation'. They just kept it out of the federal aspect, because all the states had already done it. There is no need for the fed gov to restate a position already held in the hearts, minds, and votes of the people.
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'Godless' billboard greets I-71 drivers - by nky - 11-11-2009, 10:31 AM
'Godless' billboard greets I-71 drivers - by congressman - 11-13-2009, 05:28 PM

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