[Mr.Kimball]

The administration flat out didn't give all the facts to congress. That is both parties of congress. No matter which side your on politically if you were in congress you were not given all the facts and you backed what your President was giving. That is how it should be you should back your President no MATTER what when it comes to security issues. However, once it has been shown that the details were incorrect, false, made up or whatever you want to call them they speak for themselves. Scott Ritter was proven to be correct and so was the UN.

Even though WMD may not have been discovered, has anyone not listened to anything that matman had to say? He is probably the only one on here that was actually there, other than obviously congressman. I know we have all seen footage on TV of what Huessein did to his own people, and they did in fact have weapons that they were not supposed to have.

Huessein made a game out of the UN inspector visits. He purposely wanted to leave a cloud of suspicion to the world. His intent was to leave everyone thinking, "Well does he have them, or does he not". Plain and simple, this is how he got his kicks playing "cat and mouse". His game was to just see how far he could push the UN into enforcing the set post Persian Gulf War policies before they would push back. If he wanted the world to know that there were no WMD there, then UN inspectors would have been let in to do do the inspections when they were scheduled and would have been given free access to all places they wanted to visit, instead of being denied access to certain areas. Have you all forgotten how he shot at the UN aircraft trying to enforce the UN mandated "No Fly Zones"? It wasn't like he was not warned time and time and time again, to comply with all mandated restrictions and given fair warning of the consequences.

Remember how he sold oil to buy weaponry, mocking the UN allowance to sell oil for the purpose of buying food for his people?

Are most of you people forgetting any of this? And Wildcat, I know your gonna get your little feelings hurt once again, but yes, your not old enough to remember any of it. [Thank God for google though, huh, where one can become an instant expert.] It just seems that everyone else that should be able to remember all this stuff has suddenly forgotten the reasons that we had. Heck, just throw the WMD factor out of it, we still had validity. I remember Bush, at the time as having the highest approval ratings in history. Ya'll forget about that too?

It's not so much the fact that we went in, because I think there was very just cause to go in. I think there was a good basis for that even though WMD were never discovered. It would take a very foolish person to not realize that left unchecked, Huessein with all his oil wealth would have untimately ended up with nuclear weaponry, and would have terrorized and held the middle east hostage. He surely would have backmailed the entire free world. He had to be taken out and neutralized. He certainly would have had no conscience in exterminating millions and millions of lives.

I dont like the fact that we are still there with seemingly little getting accomplished, and the fact that untold billions are still being spent either. But something had to be done. Unfortunate that it is a complicated and deadly process where it seems there is no visable early solution to. It's messy, ugly, deadly and expensive, but what would have ultimately happened if nothing had ever been done? I thought the whole Idea was to rid the Iraqi people of the cruel oppressive dictator that ruled hand and fist over them and to give them the opportunity to elect their own leaders. Was that not accomplished?

One has to first realize that fighting and dieing is a way of life to these people. It has been since the beginning of time, and when time ends it will remain unchanged. Their culture offers beliefs that there are rewards and glory for dieing for the sake of Allah. There is a faction of Iraqi people that will fight and die just the sake of dieing fighting the hated US. They dont even have to have a cause other than that. It's like a deadly football game to some. The US vs. the Shiites (or whomever it is) in this week's rival game of the week. THEY ENJOY IT!!! How do you fight that mentality? How do you restore stability to people that dont want stability?

We were spending billions and billions before just trying to enforce UN regulations, and we're are still spending billions and billions. What is different? It's a quagmire , no matter what you do.