[More Cowbell]

It makes no difference if a player is with a team or not a loss is a loss in the record book was my point.I do think the outcome would have been different with EJ playing but he wasn't.
I like to watch Elliott play but they got beat by SV plain and simple no excuses. I want to see them play again because I don't think lighting will strike twice.

I agree, the record shows the game as a loss for Shelby Valley. And that is why computer ratings are not as accurate as a human poll. They only see a loss, not the extenuating circumstances.

My point is that in making rank lists, you look at how good a team really is, not just their won-loss record. If I know that a loss was partially due to the absence of a player, then I can account for that when I evaluate how good that team is. That is the beauty of a human poll.