[Johnny Tyler Mad Cap]

OK, respect starts at home, I get that. But how can a Coach not demand respect of his players. I don't completely support the thoery that coaches can't do anything in 2 - 2 1/2 hours that they have these kids. How hard is it to either not take a player, or sit them on the bench. If a player does not respect the game or those in which he is playing for, then it's obvious to me that the coach is concerned that if he sits that player, then his chances of winning are reduced? So, a coach decides to let disrespectful players continue to play because that's better than losing?

Tell that to Carr of Scott HS, Code of Campbell County, Listerman of Cov Cath. The whole thread about untucked Jersey's, that does not happen with these coaches.

The coach is paid to do what? Win or provide discipline? So, do we give the freedom to a coach to have the strength to take action against those type of players or does he have to worry about the administration and the parents when "Joe Superstar" sits because he mouthed to a ref would not tuck in his Jersey?

You have to look at the schools you are talking about first and foremost. Theses are relatively large schools compared to the ones represented by most schools represented on here. They do not feel the same pressure or face the same problem of having soemone to fill in once the coach decides to set their example or tone.

The key is responsibility. At one point, most people were like the ones mama bear eluded to and felt that good results were a product of hard work. More and more, we see that people want things the easy way or handed to them. When a child has a home life that has a general theme of "that's not fair", "they receive special treatment", or "It's not my fault" then you get these student athletes that expect things. Coaches and teachers can work to instill a more positive attitude, but sometimes, it is just simply easier for the parents and the kids to take the low road and not put in the time when they can quit with a built in excuse. I do not see this getting any better in the near future, because we as a society seem to want a lot for little. Until we can once again as society to agree that we need to earn our way, then this will be a problem. All any coach do is be fair, firm and consistent and hope for support, because when most parents call for fair treatment, they really want special treatment, they do not want things to be fair, because that might mean that just because their child is a senior they not get to play. Most parents feel if their child is an upperclassmen, then they are entitled. I will get off my soap box now.