[Old School]

So he made some predictions that haven't been entirely true, and he is all of the sudden less credible than some junk conservative site that picks and chooses data to support itself. How hypocritical is that? So the scientific field show now hush and listen to Glen Beck, and the great detailed blog of "watts up with that? Scientist make wrong predictions all of the time, happens every day, you learn from those mistakes and move on. FYI he is not the only scientist saying this, global warming is occurring, not at the rate a lot of people claim it is, but it is occurring.

Also global cooling was never scientifically accepted, and was not a theory, just a small prediction by some scientist.

As for my Wikipedia link, it was just a convenient way to show all of the major groups supporting AGW, you could easily scroll to the bottom of the page, and view each organizations website.

lol, and I don't think a "report" by "watts up with that" (which is probably where you got your info, seeming it has everything you said, and is easily found on a google search) is more credible than anything I provided. He provides data that is really, really misleading, almost a lie. Also there are more than 4 trusted sources for global temperatures, wouldn't you think the NOAA is a good source? Read it and look at GLOBAL TEMPS, not US temperatures, big difference.
http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2008...stats.html

Here is a link of the real data that the 4 global metrics show! This watts guy is really great at cherry picking.

http://atmoz.org/blog/2008/03/10/4-of-4-...in-trends/


You are using data for the US and making at it appear to be world data which it is not. 1934 was the warmest year in the US, not the world, it was only 0.15 degree Celsius hotter than 1998, so nice try, but cherry picking doesn't work. And the earths temperature is not cooling, although temps in the US have slightly fallen since 2000. But again this is only the US, not the world, and the theory is called global warming, not US warming. So please, do a little more research before you post things that just make you look worse.

Saying “So he made some predictions that haven’t been entirely true” is like saying the Detroit Lions lost a few football games this year. lol

Did I hit a nerve with the Beck video or what? lol

Global cooling not accepted,….your kidding right,

Let’s discuss NOAA, since you brought them up, according to NOAA’s own web site and I quote, “NOAA took a leadership role in the effort of the IPCC to prepare a report on the International State of Climate Science, NOAA provided observation, data, model simulations, analysis, authors and review editors.” Their latest gaffe was to report September’s temperature data for the month of October which averages 1 degree higher, yet no one at NOAA noticed that October’s norm was 1 degree higher. One would have to wonder, was this an honest mistake or were they trying to adjust their numbers to justify the cause.

Getting back to the IPCC report, here are a few quotes from past members of the IPCC in which according to NOAA has itself taken a leadership role in observation, data, analysis, authors and review editors.

• "Since I am no longer affiliated with any organization nor receiving any funding, I can speak quite frankly ... . As a scientist I remain skeptical." -- Atmospheric Scientist Dr. Joanne Simpson, the first woman in the world to receive a Ph.D. in meteorology and formerly of NASA who has authored more than 190 studies and has been called "among the most pre-eminent scientists of the last 100 years."

• Warming fears are the "worst scientific scandal in the history ... . When people come to know what the truth is, they will feel deceived by science and scientists." -- U.N. IPCC Japanese Scientist Dr. Kiminori Itoh, an award-winning Ph.D. environmental physical chemist.
  
• "It is a blatant lie put forth in the media that makes it seem there is only a fringe of scientists who don't buy into anthropogenic global warming." -- U.S. Government Atmospheric Scientist Stanley B. Goldenberg of the Hurricane Research Division of NOAA, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

• "Gore prompted me to start delving into the science again and I quickly found myself solidly in the skeptic camp ... . Climate models can at best be useful for explaining climate changes after the fact." -- Meteorologist Hajo Smit of Holland, who reversed his belief in man-made warming to become a skeptic, is a former member of the Dutch U.N. IPCC committee.

“I have found examples of a summary saying precisely the opposite of what the Scientists said.” South African Nuclear Physicist and Chemical Engineer, Dr. Philip Lloyd, a UN IPCC co-coordinating lead author.

In August 2007 a comprehensive survey of peer-reviewed scientific literature from 2004 – 2007 revealed “less than half of all published scientist endorse Global Warming theory.

Your commit about Anthony Watts is not surprising, since that’s a typical “coach” response whenever someone doesn’t agree with your point of view. Watts is best known for revealing flaws of the surface stations across the U.S.. NASA and NOAA both use data from these stations to determine the average temperature. Watts determined that different types of paint or whitewash on the surface station buildings could cause variations in their reading’s, he also has surveyed over 750 of the nearly 1200 surface stations across the U.S. Watts found that the majority of those surveyed did not meet the original guidelines when these stations were established, The link below shows photo’s of these stations being located on blacktop, concrete, attached to buildings, decks and so on. Do you really think they would give accurate temp. readings in some of these locations?

http://gallery.surfacestations.org/UCAR-...index.html

Hansen and NASA have been trying to shove Global Warming down our throats for decades one example, was to use 1998 as the hottest year on record, while it was only 0.15 C difference between 1998 and 1934, 1934 is still the hottest year on record like it or not. Global Temperatures have been declining for the past 6 or 8 years, so how many years do temperatures have to decline for the alarmist back off of Global Warming.


By all means keep up your little personal “zingers,” I have found them to be a great motivator. lol