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01-05-2009, 06:14 PM
Old School Wrote:Obviously, you never bothered checking out those site, but before we get into my sites, let's check out your sites, one is wikipedia (enough said) while the other is from NASA containing a mere three or four paragraphs, now let's look a little deeper into NASA's site. Scientist James Hansen is the caretaker of NASA's GISS data and also a Global Warming Alarmist, and was a paid consulant to Al Gore during the making of "An Inconvient Truth", this guy has little to no credibility in the science world today.
Hansen specializes in climate "modeling" more or less attempting to predict future weather events based on computer simulations. Here are a few of his pridections.
In 1971, Hansen wrote his first climate model, which showed the World was about to experience severe Global Cooling. NASA colleagues used it to warn the World that immediate action was needed to prevent a catastrophe.
In 1981 Hansen and 6 other Federal Scientist predicted Global Warming of "Almost unprecedented magnitude" in the next century, eventually leading to a Worldwide rise of 15 to 20 feet in the sea level. Sound familiar, it's only been 28 years since his prediction, but how much have the sea levels risen since 1981?
On June 23, 1988, Hansen spoke to the Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee, while the Midwest was experiencing a severe drought. Hansen's computer model predicted rising temperatures 0.54 degrees per decade and more droughts for the Midwest thru the middle of the 21st century. FYI since that prediction in 1988 the Midwest has only been concidered to be in a drought 2 years 2005 and 2006 and temperatures have slightly declined since 1998.
In 1986 Hansen predicted global temperatures should be nearly 2 degrees higher in 2006. We know today that temp. have only risen about 0.6 degrees in the past 20 years, I guess we can give him credit for being 30% correct.
In 2004 Hansen made claims that the window for action is only 10 years, BTW didn't Gore make the same prediction in 1992?
NASA also said that 1998 was the hottest year on record, BTW they used Hansen's computer programs do determine this fact, which was latter determined to be inaccurate and 1934 is still the hottest year on record.
According to one report, there are 4 scources of Global Temperature Measurements, they are NASA, The UK Meteorological Office's Hadley Center For Climate Studies, The University of Alabama at Huntsville and RSS (Remote Sensing Systems). The report said that NASA is out of step with the other three. The other three show global temps. declining since 1998 while NASA show them increasing at a record pace. How can that be?
Now, I have to ask you do you still believe NASA and Hansens reports are credible?
As I stated earlier it's obvious that you have not looked at my sites, if you had you would have found links to many reports, studies that backs the theroy Global Warming is not man-made, there are also quotes from scientist who once believed global warming was man-made.
The videos were extras that I thought you would enjoy, I know I did. Coach here's another chance to watch this video.
http://www.glennbeck.com/content/article...198/15394/
So he made some predictions that haven't been entirely true, and he is all of the sudden less credible than some junk conservative site that picks and chooses data to support itself. How hypocritical is that? So the scientific field show now hush and listen to Glen Beck, and the great detailed blog of "watts up with that? Scientist make wrong predictions all of the time, happens every day, you learn from those mistakes and move on. FYI he is not the only scientist saying this, global warming is occurring, not at the rate a lot of people claim it is, but it is occurring.
Also global cooling was never scientifically accepted, and was not a theory, just a small prediction by some scientist.
As for my Wikipedia link, it was just a convenient way to show all of the major groups supporting AGW, you could easily scroll to the bottom of the page, and view each organizations website.
lol, and I don't think a "report" by "watts up with that" (which is probably where you got your info, seeming it has everything you said, and is easily found on a google search) is more credible than anything I provided. He provides data that is really, really misleading, almost a lie. Also there are more than 4 trusted sources for global temperatures, wouldn't you think the NOAA is a good source? Read it and look at GLOBAL TEMPS, not US temperatures, big difference.
http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2008...stats.html
Here is a link of the real data that the 4 global metrics show! This watts guy is really great at cherry picking.
http://atmoz.org/blog/2008/03/10/4-of-4-...in-trends/
You are using data for the US and making at it appear to be world data which it is not. 1934 was the warmest year in the US, not the world, it was only 0.15 degree Celsius hotter than 1998, so nice try, but cherry picking doesn't work. And the earths temperature is not cooling, although temps in the US have slightly fallen since 2000. But again this is only the US, not the world, and the theory is called global warming, not US warming. So please, do a little more research before you post things that just make you look worse.
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Sea Ice Levels same as 1979(So much for global warming) - by Beetle01 - 01-02-2009, 10:14 AM
Sea Ice Levels same as 1979(So much for global warming) - by Coach_Owens87 - 01-02-2009, 03:39 PM
Sea Ice Levels same as 1979(So much for global warming) - by Beetle01 - 01-02-2009, 04:04 PM
Sea Ice Levels same as 1979(So much for global warming) - by Beetle01 - 01-02-2009, 04:09 PM
Sea Ice Levels same as 1979(So much for global warming) - by Beetle01 - 01-02-2009, 04:14 PM
Sea Ice Levels same as 1979(So much for global warming) - by Coach_Owens87 - 01-02-2009, 05:15 PM
Sea Ice Levels same as 1979(So much for global warming) - by Old School - 01-02-2009, 10:16 PM
Sea Ice Levels same as 1979(So much for global warming) - by PC_You_Know - 01-02-2009, 10:35 PM
Sea Ice Levels same as 1979(So much for global warming) - by Coach_Owens87 - 01-02-2009, 10:40 PM
Sea Ice Levels same as 1979(So much for global warming) - by Coach_Owens87 - 01-02-2009, 10:42 PM
Sea Ice Levels same as 1979(So much for global warming) - by ImagineThat! - 01-03-2009, 01:05 AM
Sea Ice Levels same as 1979(So much for global warming) - by Coach_Owens87 - 01-03-2009, 01:32 AM
Sea Ice Levels same as 1979(So much for global warming) - by guyfawkes - 01-04-2009, 04:22 AM
Sea Ice Levels same as 1979(So much for global warming) - by Old School - 01-04-2009, 08:58 PM
Sea Ice Levels same as 1979(So much for global warming) - by Old School - 01-04-2009, 09:04 PM
Sea Ice Levels same as 1979(So much for global warming) - by Old School - 01-04-2009, 09:17 PM
Sea Ice Levels same as 1979(So much for global warming) - by Beetle01 - 01-05-2009, 08:52 AM
Sea Ice Levels same as 1979(So much for global warming) - by Coach_Owens87 - 01-05-2009, 05:43 PM
Sea Ice Levels same as 1979(So much for global warming) - by Coach_Owens87 - 01-05-2009, 06:14 PM
Sea Ice Levels same as 1979(So much for global warming) - by Beetle01 - 01-06-2009, 09:31 AM
Sea Ice Levels same as 1979(So much for global warming) - by Coach_Owens87 - 01-06-2009, 07:56 PM
Sea Ice Levels same as 1979(So much for global warming) - by Coach_Owens87 - 01-06-2009, 08:08 PM
Sea Ice Levels same as 1979(So much for global warming) - by Stardust - 01-06-2009, 08:24 PM
Sea Ice Levels same as 1979(So much for global warming) - by Coach_Owens87 - 01-06-2009, 09:12 PM
Sea Ice Levels same as 1979(So much for global warming) - by Beetle01 - 01-07-2009, 09:27 AM
Sea Ice Levels same as 1979(So much for global warming) - by DevilsWin - 01-07-2009, 02:50 PM
Sea Ice Levels same as 1979(So much for global warming) - by Stardust - 01-07-2009, 02:52 PM
Sea Ice Levels same as 1979(So much for global warming) - by Old School - 01-07-2009, 10:28 PM
Sea Ice Levels same as 1979(So much for global warming) - by Coach_Owens87 - 01-07-2009, 11:47 PM
Sea Ice Levels same as 1979(So much for global warming) - by Beetle01 - 01-08-2009, 01:24 PM
Sea Ice Levels same as 1979(So much for global warming) - by Coach_Owens87 - 01-08-2009, 06:28 PM
Sea Ice Levels same as 1979(So much for global warming) - by Beetle01 - 01-13-2009, 09:40 AM
Sea Ice Levels same as 1979(So much for global warming) - by Beetle01 - 01-13-2009, 10:20 AM
Sea Ice Levels same as 1979(So much for global warming) - by Coach_Owens87 - 01-14-2009, 05:48 PM
Sea Ice Levels same as 1979(So much for global warming) - by Now What - 01-14-2009, 06:55 PM
Sea Ice Levels same as 1979(So much for global warming) - by HAIL PIKEVILLE! - 01-16-2009, 01:29 AM
Sea Ice Levels same as 1979(So much for global warming) - by ImagineThat! - 01-16-2009, 01:39 AM
Sea Ice Levels same as 1979(So much for global warming) - by Beetle01 - 01-16-2009, 11:50 AM
Sea Ice Levels same as 1979(So much for global warming) - by Beetle01 - 01-16-2009, 11:51 AM
Sea Ice Levels same as 1979(So much for global warming) - by Benchwarmer - 01-16-2009, 11:57 AM
Sea Ice Levels same as 1979(So much for global warming) - by Coach_Owens87 - 01-16-2009, 09:36 PM
Sea Ice Levels same as 1979(So much for global warming) - by Coach_Owens87 - 01-16-2009, 09:37 PM
Sea Ice Levels same as 1979(So much for global warming) - by Coach_Owens87 - 01-16-2009, 09:42 PM
Sea Ice Levels same as 1979(So much for global warming) - by EKY Sportster - 01-17-2009, 03:23 AM
Sea Ice Levels same as 1979(So much for global warming) - by Beetle01 - 01-20-2009, 11:12 AM
Sea Ice Levels same as 1979(So much for global warming) - by Old School - 02-01-2009, 01:35 PM
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