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Estill may have had those things, but the squads I was speaking of did 4 stunt groups with those elements. Also, I believe I saw Estill throw 2 standing tucks. These squads had much better tumbling and much better stunting.

was not referring to Pikeville or GRC..Estill also had fulls..don't remember much about Bryan Station but I know Powell didn't have any fulls.