[J. R. VanHoose]

I agree, but the talent has to be there to work with. It might be locked inside and need coaching to get it out but the talent has to be there and the DESIRE of the player/players to get better.

I agree with you, that a certain talent must be there, but, I also believe that desire breeds talent. You get out of it what you put into it. I have seen many talented players fail because they had no desire to work hard and improve. They believed they could succeed on talent alone!