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12-06-2007, 01:13 PM
thecavemaster Wrote:I would guess that is possible. But over the course of a decade (1776-1787), wouldn't you think that MANY discussions took place, many debates... and human beings being human beings, it has always resonated with me that Madison did not like Jefferson at least in large part because Jefferson's intellect, diction, eloquence grated on the ego of Madison.
I think they both were very intelligent men, and from reading writings of them both, their diction and elquence are far superior to that of even the 'great communicator'. These men could talk like true gentlemen, with prose and poise. But I don't think their disagreements are found on Christianity, or even a true hate for each other... but moreso in their ideas for federalism.
And I agree, this is such an interesting topic to talk about. And no matter what side you come down on, we can both agree had it not been for these men... and all others who risked death at the hands of the King and British 'empire'.... we'd not ever have this chance to disagree. Instead, we'd both be kissing the feet of the Queen right now. :eek:
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Church and State? - by ronald_reagan - 12-05-2007, 11:09 AM
Church and State? - by BlackcatAlum - 12-05-2007, 11:22 AM
Church and State? - by Crossbones - 12-05-2007, 11:29 AM
Church and State? - by ronald_reagan - 12-05-2007, 11:33 AM
Church and State? - by ronald_reagan - 12-05-2007, 11:36 AM
Church and State? - by Crossbones - 12-05-2007, 11:36 AM
Church and State? - by BlackcatAlum - 12-05-2007, 11:47 AM
Church and State? - by ronald_reagan - 12-05-2007, 11:48 AM
Church and State? - by vundy33 - 12-05-2007, 12:05 PM
Church and State? - by ronald_reagan - 12-05-2007, 12:20 PM
Church and State? - by vundy33 - 12-05-2007, 12:30 PM
Church and State? - by ronald_reagan - 12-05-2007, 12:32 PM
Church and State? - by thecavemaster - 12-05-2007, 02:37 PM
Church and State? - by Watchful Eye - 12-05-2007, 03:22 PM
Church and State? - by More Cowbell - 12-05-2007, 06:50 PM
Church and State? - by ronald_reagan - 12-05-2007, 06:56 PM
Church and State? - by HAIL PIKEVILLE! - 12-06-2007, 01:52 AM
Church and State? - by HAIL PIKEVILLE! - 12-06-2007, 01:54 AM
Church and State? - by ronald_reagan - 12-06-2007, 02:25 AM
Church and State? - by thecavemaster - 12-06-2007, 09:58 AM
Church and State? - by ronald_reagan - 12-06-2007, 11:48 AM
Church and State? - by thecavemaster - 12-06-2007, 11:52 AM
Church and State? - by ronald_reagan - 12-06-2007, 11:57 AM
Church and State? - by ronald_reagan - 12-06-2007, 12:02 PM
Church and State? - by thecavemaster - 12-06-2007, 12:03 PM
Church and State? - by ronald_reagan - 12-06-2007, 12:04 PM
Church and State? - by ronald_reagan - 12-06-2007, 12:12 PM
Church and State? - by thecavemaster - 12-06-2007, 12:19 PM
Church and State? - by thecavemaster - 12-06-2007, 12:30 PM
Church and State? - by ronald_reagan - 12-06-2007, 12:33 PM
Church and State? - by thecavemaster - 12-06-2007, 12:36 PM
Church and State? - by DevilsWin - 12-06-2007, 12:39 PM
Church and State? - by thecavemaster - 12-06-2007, 12:42 PM
Church and State? - by ronald_reagan - 12-06-2007, 12:45 PM
Church and State? - by thecavemaster - 12-06-2007, 12:46 PM
Church and State? - by ronald_reagan - 12-06-2007, 12:49 PM
Church and State? - by ronald_reagan - 12-06-2007, 12:49 PM
Church and State? - by thecavemaster - 12-06-2007, 12:52 PM
Church and State? - by ronald_reagan - 12-06-2007, 12:59 PM
Church and State? - by thecavemaster - 12-06-2007, 01:01 PM
Church and State? - by thecavemaster - 12-06-2007, 01:04 PM
Church and State? - by ronald_reagan - 12-06-2007, 01:13 PM
Church and State? - by thecavemaster - 12-06-2007, 01:16 PM
Church and State? - by ronald_reagan - 12-06-2007, 01:17 PM
Church and State? - by HAIL PIKEVILLE! - 12-06-2007, 02:19 PM
Church and State? - by ronald_reagan - 12-06-2007, 02:27 PM
Church and State? - by Chuck Taylor - 12-06-2007, 07:22 PM
Church and State? - by ronald_reagan - 12-06-2007, 07:42 PM
Church and State? - by thecavemaster - 12-07-2007, 04:02 PM
Church and State? - by ronald_reagan - 12-07-2007, 05:28 PM
Church and State? - by thecavemaster - 12-07-2007, 05:52 PM
Church and State? - by ronald_reagan - 12-07-2007, 10:49 PM
Church and State? - by thecavemaster - 12-08-2007, 09:19 AM
Church and State? - by ronald_reagan - 12-08-2007, 02:33 PM
Church and State? - by Sportsfan54 - 12-09-2007, 12:06 PM
Church and State? - by ronald_reagan - 12-09-2007, 12:16 PM
Church and State? - by thecavemaster - 12-10-2007, 08:46 AM
Church and State? - by ronald_reagan - 12-11-2007, 01:56 AM
Church and State? - by ronald_reagan - 12-11-2007, 01:58 AM
Church and State? - by thecavemaster - 12-11-2007, 08:59 AM
Church and State? - by ronald_reagan - 12-11-2007, 09:11 AM
Church and State? - by thecavemaster - 12-11-2007, 03:26 PM
Church and State? - by ronald_reagan - 12-12-2007, 04:39 PM
Church and State? - by thecavemaster - 12-12-2007, 08:55 PM
Church and State? - by ronald_reagan - 12-13-2007, 01:05 AM
Church and State? - by thecavemaster - 12-13-2007, 08:39 AM
Church and State? - by ronald_reagan - 12-13-2007, 11:01 AM
Church and State? - by thecavemaster - 12-13-2007, 01:43 PM
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