[thecavemaster]

The evidence is???

"I supported the Iraq thing" (after the 'iraq thing happened').

I don't know what you're trying to prove, but you're not a very good job of it. thats all.

You can't say you support something, and then turn around say you didn't.

Would bill clinton have done what Bush did? IMO absolutely not. Would Tom Daschle (author of the bill) have done it? IMO absolutely not. But did they support it? Absolutely so.

Support and action are different. Being in the presidents shoes is a little more than being arm chair quarterback. Those who aren't in the oval office can say that they would have, or wouldn't have... or how they'd done things different. Hindsight is always 20/20...

Its clear to me, and many others... Clinton supported Bush's war. He says so numerous times. (as John Kerry supported TROOPS ON THE GROUND in 1998), and just yesterday is says he never did. Thats a lie. Thats the point of the thread.

I may give someone power of attorney; however, within that framework, I have certain expectations of action. I am saying that there is evidence that Bill Clinton supported "war powers," but if "the Iraq thing" meant overthrow and long-term occupation, no. It is not clear to me that Clinton supported the strategic decisions. There is no doubt that Obama clearly opposed the war (whatever the strategy) from the beginning and that both Bill and Hillary approved of giving Bush "war powers."