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11-25-2007, 01:04 PM
Coach_Owens87 Wrote:First off me using windpub is no worse than you useing kycoal.org, or coaleducation.org, both of those are very slanted sites.
Now you ramble on with a response to my post on coal being a major source of mercury released into the environment. I dont really feel like typing a long response, it's late, and im depressed about the tenn game, so since you love to read info check this site out, http://www.ornl.gov/info/ornlreview/rev2...lmain.html , it pretty much answer all your questions, and proves what I was trying to say. The site I mentioned also looks at the effect the cap emmissions on mercury by the epa will have.
your figures for the allowed selenium release are WAY off. According to the EPA thier standard for the level of allowed selenium release is 0.05 ppm, not 5 ppm or 50 ppm. your numbers are 100x and 1000x larger than the actual number.
The information I gave on impaired streams was on the site I listed in my last post.
If anyone really wants to know the impact that MTR is having on the environment, go to this site
http://www.epa.gov/region3/mtntop/pdf/mt...cument.pdf , its a copy of the impact statement given by the EPA. This is the only major scale study done on MTR. A lot of the information I have given has come from this study. it does have some inconclusive data, but it's the best study out there. One warning, this is a rather large file, it's 25 mb, but it;s worth it for people wanting the info.
I did make a typo, in my statement it should have read Parts Per Billion (PPB) instead of Parts Per Million (PPM), according to several annual water quaility reports the Maximum Contaminant Level of Selenium for water treatment plants is 50 (PPB) while the allowable selenium discharge limit into streams is 5 (PPB). Regardless, Water Treatment facilities are still allowed to discharge 10 times the amount of selenium into our drinking water than coal companies are allowed to discharge into our streams.
As far as the impaired streams info. the references were listed, but I could not find the site in which kywatershed took them from, and you just never know how they report the facts, and have tendencies to omit information they don't want you to know.
Actually, I don't recall kycoal.org and coaleducation.org is sponsored in part by the Kentucky Office of Energy Policy and the Kentucky Coal Assoication, which has a lot of historical facts about coal mining, including production, and employment records, also information on coal severance taxes, and coals effects on the economy. This sites also gives information on the different types of mining, overall it's a interesting site if you are interested in mining.
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Church Group Opposes Bush Administrations Mine Rule Change - by DevilsWin - 10-11-2007, 04:41 PM
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Church Group Opposes Bush Administrations Mine Rule Change - by thecavemaster - 10-15-2007, 07:46 AM
Church Group Opposes Bush Administrations Mine Rule Change - by DevilsWin - 10-15-2007, 10:47 AM
Church Group Opposes Bush Administrations Mine Rule Change - by TidesHoss32 - 10-15-2007, 10:49 AM
Church Group Opposes Bush Administrations Mine Rule Change - by Coach_Owens87 - 10-15-2007, 12:34 PM
Church Group Opposes Bush Administrations Mine Rule Change - by TidesHoss32 - 10-15-2007, 01:02 PM
Church Group Opposes Bush Administrations Mine Rule Change - by Fenix - 10-15-2007, 01:53 PM
Church Group Opposes Bush Administrations Mine Rule Change - by Coach_Owens87 - 10-15-2007, 02:36 PM
Church Group Opposes Bush Administrations Mine Rule Change - by Old School - 10-15-2007, 10:02 PM
Church Group Opposes Bush Administrations Mine Rule Change - by Old School - 10-15-2007, 10:07 PM
Church Group Opposes Bush Administrations Mine Rule Change - by Coach_Owens87 - 10-16-2007, 02:49 AM
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Church Group Opposes Bush Administrations Mine Rule Change - by Coach_Owens87 - 10-16-2007, 07:13 PM
Church Group Opposes Bush Administrations Mine Rule Change - by Redneck - 10-19-2007, 03:51 PM
Church Group Opposes Bush Administrations Mine Rule Change - by Coach_Owens87 - 10-19-2007, 09:57 PM
Church Group Opposes Bush Administrations Mine Rule Change - by Old School - 10-19-2007, 11:13 PM
Church Group Opposes Bush Administrations Mine Rule Change - by Coach_Owens87 - 10-20-2007, 12:12 AM
Church Group Opposes Bush Administrations Mine Rule Change - by Redneck - 10-20-2007, 05:31 AM
Church Group Opposes Bush Administrations Mine Rule Change - by Old School - 10-20-2007, 10:19 AM
Church Group Opposes Bush Administrations Mine Rule Change - by Coach_Owens87 - 10-20-2007, 12:15 PM
Church Group Opposes Bush Administrations Mine Rule Change - by Redneck - 10-20-2007, 01:28 PM
Church Group Opposes Bush Administrations Mine Rule Change - by Old School - 10-20-2007, 02:55 PM
Church Group Opposes Bush Administrations Mine Rule Change - by Coach_Owens87 - 10-21-2007, 12:08 AM
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Church Group Opposes Bush Administrations Mine Rule Change - by Coach_Owens87 - 10-21-2007, 01:42 PM
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Church Group Opposes Bush Administrations Mine Rule Change - by TidesHoss32 - 11-01-2007, 12:31 PM
Church Group Opposes Bush Administrations Mine Rule Change - by thecavemaster - 11-01-2007, 12:55 PM
Church Group Opposes Bush Administrations Mine Rule Change - by Coach_Owens87 - 11-01-2007, 01:57 PM
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Church Group Opposes Bush Administrations Mine Rule Change - by Coach_Owens87 - 11-01-2007, 10:54 PM
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Church Group Opposes Bush Administrations Mine Rule Change - by DevilsWin - 11-02-2007, 01:00 AM
Church Group Opposes Bush Administrations Mine Rule Change - by Beef - 11-02-2007, 04:32 AM
Church Group Opposes Bush Administrations Mine Rule Change - by Coach_Owens87 - 11-02-2007, 01:52 PM
Church Group Opposes Bush Administrations Mine Rule Change - by Coach_Owens87 - 11-02-2007, 02:09 PM
Church Group Opposes Bush Administrations Mine Rule Change - by DevilsWin - 11-02-2007, 02:42 PM
Church Group Opposes Bush Administrations Mine Rule Change - by Old School - 11-02-2007, 04:41 PM
Church Group Opposes Bush Administrations Mine Rule Change - by Coach_Owens87 - 11-02-2007, 04:57 PM
Church Group Opposes Bush Administrations Mine Rule Change - by Old School - 11-02-2007, 07:52 PM
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Church Group Opposes Bush Administrations Mine Rule Change - by Old School - 11-03-2007, 05:32 PM
Church Group Opposes Bush Administrations Mine Rule Change - by Coach_Owens87 - 11-11-2007, 06:47 PM
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