[BoondockSaint]

No Im not saying that racism is only racism if it's whites are discriminating blacks. I don't see how you got that. In my last sentence I was trying to say that people only see racism as blacks against whites, and vice versa. Racism is present in all races.

I thought tidehoss was going a little overboard by implying special rights by blacks. All minority groups have agency's set up to help them succeed. If they didn't the civil rights act wouldn't have happened.

Segregation and minority groups had a time and place, I'll go as far as to agree to that for matters of safety and to avoid discrimination. But that was quite some time ago.

But can you not agree that for racism to vanish completely, the minority groups have to evolve, too? There will always be that feeling of unfair treatment by any ethnic group if one group, whether they are in the minority or not, receive special treatment.

Back to racism vanishing completely...I am not a racist, I am a realist. And realistically speaking, I believe that there will always be some racism in the world. It has to do with a number of things, mostly a lack of understanding other ethnic groups or peoples, but it has a lot to do with what people relate to and feel comfortable with. General IQ has a lot to do with it, too, and in my dealings with people over a long period of time on this place God created the ignorant outnumber those with a generous amount of common sense.

Let's bet back to the lack of understanding of people, and "comfort zones". An experiment, if you will. Take any man you want. We'll say an unbiased white man just for the benefit of this discussion, and send him into a room of 50 harmless white men and 50 harmless balck men. By instinct our independent variable must choose a group to join at no urging of anyone in either group. 99 times out of 100 he is going to join the group of whites because it appeals more to his level of comfort. Plainly because he himself is white, and at least has that in common with one group without knowing anything else about them. It's not racism, it is just life. And the same would happen if the roles were reversed. Does that make him a racist? No, it's natural selection.