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07-27-2025, 01:41 AM
(07-27-2025, 12:04 AM)ArJay Wrote:Speaking of that terrible call, how about we mention how our coaching staff was screaming at officials for a whole defensive drive after that fumble instead of coaching the defense. There went 7 points. We could’ve used some of that staff you speak so highly of but they were too busy yelling over a 50/50 fumble call we didn’t get. We let one play carry over into an entire game.(07-26-2025, 03:09 PM)Gridiron_Raid Wrote:You are definitely in the minority. I look it on the field results. What teams have beat us in the playoffs that we should have beat recently. We didn't play our best game against LexCath, but they were very good with a stud RB and a D-1 WR. And lots of speed. And I thought we got a terrible call that dug us a hole.(07-24-2025, 12:15 AM)ArJay Wrote:Both those seasons they had the best player in 3a, and one was MR football. They have lost multiple games at they had more talent (sometimes at every position) in recent years like knox, north laurel, rock, Lexington Catholic. They have only lost one 7on7 in two years to bryan station, and has pretty much dominated any team they face in that regard. Yet last year they threw the ball 7 times a game. Having to call timeouts because you can’t give the QB a play quick enough in big games. I can go on and on.(07-23-2025, 08:33 PM)Gridiron_Raid Wrote: Hopefully we get that 10th game scheduled. I pray that the inept ability to get a game on the schedule isn’t a precursor to what’s on the sidelines this year.400+ career wins with a great staff that has a nucleus of coaches that got the team to 2 state championship games in the last 6 seasons. Inept is clearly an inaccurate word to define the staff.
Some people call it the spread, but really it’s just anything but 13 personnel (bone and power I) is where bell county has flourished especially in the past two years but even before that. Yet it’s the bone or die. If you want to be technical about the staff, Jordan Amis played for Upike under dudley and coached at bell in two stints. He was on the staff in both state championship appearances, where if you remember, different formations and attacks were used throughout the season. He would advocate to use the weapons on the roster and dudley listened. He wasn’t on the staff last year and they run the power I right into a 3rd round exit. Nobody on that staff right now can take over as a head coach, or can get in the ear of dudley to advocate to spread it out. That’s why you didnt see the spread until you were down two scores against North, Boyd, Lex Catholic, and rock(one score).
Speaking of which, why use your obvious best option that can electrify the scoreboard and get you back into games, like north boyd and rock, only when you are in the hole? But i’m beating a dead horse. The word I used “inept” towards most to all of the support staff is a sugarcoat. I hate some of the things dudley does, but he was willing to delegate in the past to get to where he needed (Greer, Marple, Amis, plenty of position coaches too long to mention). If he’s struggling to delegate now, I have to believe it’s on his support staff.
Year before we play CAL in finals after winning 3 straight road playoff games. No way to beat them. They were loaded.
In 22 Ashland blew Belfry and beat us. They were clearly better. As for Mr. Football, Thomas was awesome, but not like a big-time D-1 talent. Coach Hilton did an awesome job putting him in position to succeed. Also, you need to understand history. What's happened to our program with good head coaches both times Dudley left? The program dropped off some.
As for the staff, Marple was likable, but his defense gave up way too many big plays. Amis was pretty far down the pecking order. You are just reaching at this point.
I remember those staffs with Jimbo Terry, Bo Callebs, Tommy Greer, Brian Crawford, Barry Philpot, Jeff Saylor, etc. All great coaches at the time. So are the coaches now.
Is Dudley and the staff perfect? No. But are they competent? That's not debatable. I would guess there isn't a football program within 100 miles except maybe Corbin with the number of wins we've had for the last 40 years in Kentucky.
The year before marple got there, the defense gave up 40 pts per game. His first year, 25 ppg. His second year, 14 ppg and lost to the best team in 3A that year in corbin twice. Take out the corbin games, they had 3 shutouts and under 9 ppg. But yes he gave up too many big plays…. I guess that’s why he went to taylor county and had them in the state semis year one and allowed less than 20 ppg every year he was in 3A. If you don’t think the main reason bell county was where they were in 2019 was sam marple coaching those guys for the 2 years prior that’s ludicrous. He built an elite defense that only lost 2 starters before he left for taylor and the following season they had 4 shutouts. From when he left, the PPG allowed has went from 10, to 12, to 15, to 20, to 22, to 25, to finally back below 20 last year (returned 10 defensive starters and two fifth years).
If you were anywhere around the teams when dudley came back in 2017, you know Amis had a huge role on the offensive side. He basically introduced the spread offense to bell county in the time he was there. Imagine London stephney having to run the power I every play (which he had to a lot of the time) vs when they went to the spread option.
Disregarding the powerhouses within 100 miles on the TN and VA side, Pikeville has won 8 state championships and 4 in the last 6. Belfry won however many you can count. Breathitt county has 3 state wins. Pulaski was in 4 straight state championships this century. In the mountains but over 100 miles you got JC, who was in 5 of 6 state championships with two different coaches. All of this was in the last 40 years. But ok dude.
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Bell County 2025 Schedule - by Bull got out! - 07-23-2025, 06:53 PM
RE: Bell County 2025 Schedule - by Gridiron_Raid - 07-23-2025, 08:33 PM
RE: Bell County 2025 Schedule - by ArJay - 07-24-2025, 12:15 AM
RE: Bell County 2025 Schedule - by Gridiron_Raid - 07-26-2025, 03:09 PM
RE: Bell County 2025 Schedule - by ArJay - 07-27-2025, 12:04 AM
RE: Bell County 2025 Schedule - by Gridiron_Raid - 07-27-2025, 01:41 AM
RE: Bell County 2025 Schedule - by ArJay - 07-27-2025, 07:51 AM
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