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It's now gone from war plans to not war plans but classified, from classified to not classified but sensitive, now to controlled unclassified whatever the hell that is. It's not a nothing burger but it is time to learn from it and move on. But of course the Dems won't because it's all they got; they can't talk about their policies because the vast majority of the population hates them.

What was discussed was definitely "war plans" and should have been classified, probably to a secret level. Controlled Unclassified Information is just information that has not been classified but still must be protected. The fact that senior officials in our government use the Signal app for communication would technically be Controlled Unclassified Information because adversaries could use that information to infiltrate state discussions. "War plans" is just what the media is throwing out because that's basically what they were and I guess it sounds sexier than operations briefings. Classified is what they should have been, and then there are levels to classification based on the potential for damage caused to equipment, personnel, or operations. The fact that senior US officials use the signal app for communication is, in my opinion, not a big deal, but it all comes down to the information being shared on there. Yes it is encrypted and the messages on it are not stored anywhere and eventually deleted (which is a completely separate, potential FOIA issue), but it is not US government controlled and as we have seen over the past few days can easily be compromised by simply adding an approved user to a group.

I stopped reading after that, now we're all the way down to "should have" and "probably to" lol...




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So, let’s me get this straight. The Atlantic released the so-called “war plans” and those “plans” include: No names. No targets. No locations. No units. No routes. No sources. No methods. And no classified information.

Those are some really shitty war plans.

This only proves one thing: Jeff Goldberg has never seen a war plan or an “attack plan” (as he now calls it). Not even close.

As I type this, my team and I are traveling the INDOPACOM region, meeting w/ Commanders (the guys who make REAL “war plans”) and talking to troops.

We will continue to do our job, while the media does what it does best: peddle hoaxes.

That's fine I was just trying to explain how the classifications work. DoDM 5200.45 is the governing guideline for classifications if you're interested.

I'm not a Democrat so the what-aboutisms don't really mean anything to me and they shouldn't really have anything to do with this situation. For what it's worth I'm a GWOT veteran and I don't think you'll find many if any of us that will say things like Benghazi or the Afghanistan withdrawal were no big deal. This is definitely not a nothing burger though and the administration should take this one on the chin and fix it. The initial leaks weren't really a problem for me, but this one is the one that is a problem. These are details that should have been at least at the Secret level, and the "We are currently clean on OPSEC" comment when an unauthorized person was in the chat group is just amazing.
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