[Old School Hound]

I think we can all agree that we rarely get the best of the best as far as our party's Presidential nominees are concerned. I have to give it to Hoot for at least telling it like it is as far as Trump is concerned. Jet is not about to do that in regards to Trump. Donald Trump is about as far from a conservative stalwart as I am. In fact, I am more conservative than Donald Trump. Nothing about him resembles the values of Ronald Reagan conservatives. You can't find anyone more right-wing than Liz and Dick, and they can't bring themselves to vote for Trump. But Jet will do it gladly. I can respect principled conservatives.  Donald Trump is most certainly not principled ANYTHING. At least Hoot will admit that he's holding his nose as he casts his vote. Sad that my buddy Jet won't at least go as far as admit that Trump was an awful president and is an awful candidate this time.

Yes, you and JP are like peas in a pod. He will never admit that Trump was a flawed president and an even worse candidate for 2024, and you will never admit that Biden and Harris may be the two worst Democrat candidates in American history. You are wrong about Liz and Dick Cheney. They are neo-cons, but no true conservative would ever support a radical left-wing numb-brained candidate like Kamala Harris. Harris was born with one great superpower, which I believe Willie Brown depleted years ago.

I'm not a huge fan of Kamala , to say the least.  Biden was not my pick, either. Like I say, both parties are alike in that they rarely nominate the best of candidates. Just once I'd like to hear Jetpilot say what you did , and that is that Trump is a horrible candidate for president.  I think I'd have to wait a lifetime, and still would never hear him say it.