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06-17-2023, 03:17 PM
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(06-17-2023, 03:07 PM)TheRealThing Wrote: sub·stan·tiveI respect you, TRT, but I disagree with most of what you said. Trump was a very ineffective president. I don't understand why anybody would want the GOP to nominate him for a second term. More importantly, I do not believe that no Republican could have done better than Trump did in his first term and I also don't believe that no Republican candidate is better qualified for the presidency in the 2024 campaign. If Trump is the answer, then this country is in serious trouble.
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Hoot you're a thoughtful man and I respect you. But when all of government stand against a sitting President to include the existing bureaucracy, and the entirety of the Party of opposition, let alone the sitting Republican Majority Leader in the person of Mitch McConnell and the Republican Speaker of the House in the person of Paul Ryan AND, all of main stream media: Then that President has a governing problem on his hands unlike anything in my lifetime or the last 150 years for that matter. I mean, I remember how excited people like Steve Scalise and Jim Jordan were when Trump won the presidency. There was a spirit of expectation.
Trump was a pragmatist left to his own devices by the very government sworn to subservience under his leadership according to the people's will. I didn't like the EO's either but we did see the last glimpses of the founder's spirit of freedom under his watch. That said I agree that his legacy and any likely effective future in government (in all aspects) has been shredded. I sincerely doubt a second term would even rise to the level of his first chaotic term. Further, I worry that no Republican President in the unlikely event of his election, will be able to govern after the fashion of previous presidents for the foreseeable future.
I will never vote for a Democrat for president, especially a Democrat who very possibly has pocketed bribes from foreign governments but if my only alternative is Trump, I will regret having to vote for him in 2024 more than I regretted voting for McCain and Romney. Trump made no lasting impact in any area other than his Supreme Court nominations in four full years, and I would be shocked if he performed any better if he is given another four-year term. It is time for him to retire from politics.
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Will there be violence in Miami on June 13th? - by The Outsider - 06-12-2023, 09:52 PM
RE: Will there be violence in Miami on June 13th? - by plantmanky - 06-13-2023, 06:53 PM
RE: Will there be violence in Miami on June 13th? - by Hoot Gibson - 06-13-2023, 10:57 PM
RE: Will there be violence in Miami on June 13th? - by TheRealThing - 06-17-2023, 12:17 PM
RE: Will there be violence in Miami on June 13th? - by Hoot Gibson - 06-17-2023, 12:30 PM
RE: Will there be violence in Miami on June 13th? - by The Outsider - 06-18-2023, 10:26 PM
RE: Will there be violence in Miami on June 13th? - by Hoot Gibson - 06-19-2023, 03:44 AM
RE: Will there be violence in Miami on June 13th? - by TheRealThing - 06-17-2023, 03:07 PM
RE: Will there be violence in Miami on June 13th? - by Hoot Gibson - 06-17-2023, 03:17 PM
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