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11-16-2022, 12:01 PM
(11-16-2022, 11:34 AM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:(11-16-2022, 11:30 AM)i82much Wrote:I stated this in my post. But we can safely assume that the KHSAA has more evidence because the Ashland administration's initial response was to dismiss the phone call as a technical violation and deliver a gentle slap on the wrist punishment. It is doubtful that KHSAA forced Mays' dismissal based on the recording alone.(11-16-2022, 11:20 AM)SocratesKy Wrote:(11-16-2022, 10:56 AM)i82much Wrote: Great synopsis 16thregioner. I certainly hope any decisions rendered don't include post season sanctions against the team. We don't know the whole story as far as the KHSAA investigation goes....but....sanctioning the team based on one phone call just wouldn't seem right....however....if the investigation includes evidence of recruiting team members that played last year or are going to play this year then I would understand sanctioning the team. I just don't want this to be another instance of a coach walking and then the program and the innocent taking the brunt of the punishment. I believe Coach Mays is a good man that just went too far. It's somewhat understandable considering he came from the collegiate ranks and has a lot of AAU ties. These are two arenas where talk like we heard from Coach Mays is just how it's done. Doesn't make it right though...this is not those arenas.The issue is Ashland was performing at a high level because of the unfair advantage of recruiting. If this level and way of recruiting is permissible then all schools should design coaching staffs and programs that also perform in this same manner. That being said schools and in particular athletic directors are currently forced to hire and develop programs that develop players instead of being great recruiters and marketers of programs. Plain and simple it is a huge, unfair competitive advantage.
Also....I keep hearing from different posters "win at all costs"....I don't buy that, I am in no way defending what Mays did but I do believe his heart was in the right place. Time after time there are instances of him putting his players first. For example, paving the way for his best player to leave for college with one year of eligibility left. That definitely wasn't "win at ALL costs". Coach has been going through some tough life events, no need to kick the guy while he's down. And no, I'm not saying he's innocent and doesn't need to be punished as some on here will interpret my post. I've never met the guy nor any of his family but I pray he learns from this, gains some wisdom, and is able to eventually move on.
Just a reminder....the only evidence that we currently have of a player being recruited is the 8th grader that has never played for Ashland. IF, the KHSAA has evidence of any players on the team from previous years being recruited THEN you are absolutely right. And they may have this evidence, we just don't know at his point. If not, then there was no unfair advantage. Kids switch schools now and days like college athletes during the transfer portal. It's just the way it is....
I understand Hoot. I agree that we can infer they have more evidence. We just don't know if that evidence involves previous or current players. The evidence may be that he recruited Bill Walton's grand nephew or it may be that he recruited his current players. If the latter is the case then I agree with you.
Also, the evidence may show he recruited other local players that didn't transfer to Ashland, I'm sure there would be no shortage of local people ready to light up the ears of the KHSAA. If that's the case, punish Mays, not the team.
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Mays fired from Ashland - by OldFlow - 11-15-2022, 05:14 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by Strikeout King - 11-15-2022, 05:20 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by Ramcat77 - 11-15-2022, 05:23 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by Fanman - 11-15-2022, 05:23 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by jamesclay - 11-15-2022, 05:56 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by 16thregionballer - 11-15-2022, 08:52 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by 16thregioner - 11-15-2022, 06:34 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by SocratesKy - 11-15-2022, 07:42 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by Fanman - 11-15-2022, 07:46 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by 16thregionballer - 11-16-2022, 02:18 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by 16BBall Fan - 11-15-2022, 08:43 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by Scotty_Bronson - 11-15-2022, 09:56 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by Scotty_Bronson - 11-15-2022, 09:57 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by SocratesKy - 11-15-2022, 11:49 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by 16thregionballer - 11-16-2022, 12:16 AM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by Vols0528 - 11-15-2022, 10:01 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by Hoot Gibson - 11-16-2022, 08:33 AM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by pjdoug - 11-15-2022, 11:32 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by 16thregioner - 11-16-2022, 10:01 AM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by Hoot Gibson - 11-16-2022, 10:33 AM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by Kentuckysfinest - 11-16-2022, 07:01 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by i82much - 11-16-2022, 10:56 AM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by SocratesKy - 11-16-2022, 11:20 AM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by i82much - 11-16-2022, 11:30 AM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by Hoot Gibson - 11-16-2022, 11:34 AM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by i82much - 11-16-2022, 12:01 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by Hoot Gibson - 11-16-2022, 11:08 AM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by i82much - 11-16-2022, 11:19 AM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by DukeBoy - 11-16-2022, 11:14 AM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by Ramcat77 - 11-16-2022, 11:32 AM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by Fanman - 11-16-2022, 11:54 AM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by 16thregionballer - 11-16-2022, 12:28 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by i82much - 11-16-2022, 12:46 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by 16thregionballer - 11-16-2022, 01:08 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by LOOKAYANNER - 11-17-2022, 10:38 AM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by 16thregionballer - 11-17-2022, 06:55 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by Hoot Gibson - 11-16-2022, 12:39 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by jamesclay - 11-17-2022, 12:31 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by Hoot Gibson - 11-17-2022, 01:07 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by Vols0528 - 11-16-2022, 06:03 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by 16thregioner - 11-16-2022, 06:12 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by TheOracle - 12-06-2022, 05:13 AM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by 16thregioner - 12-06-2022, 08:50 AM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by 16thregionballer - 12-06-2022, 05:59 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by Ky1976 - 12-07-2022, 09:12 AM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by 16thregioner - 12-07-2022, 09:31 AM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by 16thregionballer - 12-07-2022, 01:27 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by LOOKAYANNER - 12-07-2022, 02:44 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by Hoot Gibson - 11-16-2022, 06:13 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by HCS - 11-16-2022, 06:16 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by Vols0528 - 11-16-2022, 06:28 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by SocratesKy - 11-16-2022, 06:43 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by Vols0528 - 11-16-2022, 07:11 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by 16thregionballer - 11-16-2022, 08:03 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by Vols0528 - 11-16-2022, 08:14 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by 16thregionballer - 11-16-2022, 09:10 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by Fanman - 11-16-2022, 10:18 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by 16thregionballer - 11-16-2022, 10:24 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by Fanman - 11-16-2022, 10:35 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by 16thregionballer - 11-16-2022, 10:44 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by Fanman - 11-16-2022, 10:57 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by 16thregionballer - 11-16-2022, 11:01 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by Fanman - 11-16-2022, 11:07 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by 16thregioner - 11-17-2022, 09:43 AM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by SocratesKy - 11-16-2022, 11:22 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by Fanman - 11-16-2022, 11:32 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by 16thregioner - 11-17-2022, 11:48 AM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by LOOKAYANNER - 11-17-2022, 12:39 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by Fanman - 11-19-2022, 03:57 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by 16thregioner - 11-19-2022, 06:30 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by Fanman - 11-19-2022, 06:36 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by brooksville - 11-21-2022, 07:25 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by Fanman - 11-21-2022, 11:33 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by Wildcat100 - 11-22-2022, 09:37 AM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by 16thregionballer - 11-22-2022, 10:41 AM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by LOOKAYANNER - 11-22-2022, 10:59 AM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by 16thregionballer - 11-22-2022, 11:13 AM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by Fanman - 11-22-2022, 11:05 AM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by LOOKAYANNER - 11-22-2022, 11:37 AM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by 16thregionballer - 11-22-2022, 11:57 AM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by LOOKAYANNER - 11-22-2022, 01:54 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by Fanman - 11-22-2022, 02:22 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by LOOKAYANNER - 11-22-2022, 12:17 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by 16thregionballer - 11-22-2022, 01:06 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by SocratesKy - 11-22-2022, 01:09 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by SocratesKy - 11-22-2022, 02:14 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by SocratesKy - 11-22-2022, 05:09 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by 16thregionballer - 11-22-2022, 05:31 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by SocratesKy - 11-22-2022, 06:06 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by 16thregionballer - 11-22-2022, 11:05 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by SocratesKy - 11-22-2022, 11:43 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by 16thregioner - 11-22-2022, 11:48 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by 16thregionballer - 11-22-2022, 11:58 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by Fanman - 11-23-2022, 12:40 AM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by SocratesKy - 11-23-2022, 12:32 AM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by 16thregionballer - 11-23-2022, 12:40 AM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by SocratesKy - 11-23-2022, 12:57 AM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by i82much - 11-23-2022, 01:03 AM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by SocratesKy - 11-23-2022, 02:52 AM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by 16thregioner - 11-23-2022, 08:55 AM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by i82much - 11-23-2022, 09:12 AM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by 16thregioner - 11-23-2022, 09:23 AM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by 16thregionballer - 11-23-2022, 11:41 AM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by SocratesKy - 11-23-2022, 12:00 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by SocratesKy - 11-23-2022, 11:28 AM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by i82much - 11-23-2022, 12:34 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by SocratesKy - 11-23-2022, 01:21 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by i82much - 11-23-2022, 02:09 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by SocratesKy - 11-23-2022, 02:47 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by IAM22 - 11-23-2022, 08:22 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by SocratesKy - 11-24-2022, 12:39 AM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by Ky1976 - 12-06-2022, 09:11 AM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by 16thregioner - 12-06-2022, 09:27 AM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by The_Messenger - 12-06-2022, 10:02 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by Ky1976 - 12-07-2022, 02:40 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by 16thregionballer - 12-07-2022, 03:41 PM
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RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by KYHSFB - 12-08-2022, 07:41 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by 16thregionballer - 12-09-2022, 07:54 AM
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RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by Ky1976 - 12-09-2022, 01:52 PM
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