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What Changes , If Any, Would You Make to the Current Playoff System?
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(11-03-2022, 01:15 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(11-03-2022, 12:55 PM)Hound05 Wrote:
(11-03-2022, 07:57 AM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(11-03-2022, 04:25 AM)Hound05 Wrote: Yea….You just deflected the entire question of how RPI rewards scheduling weak teams. But that’s ok. And I never said SK was the top of 6A. But they finished 2nd in RPI as I said, because we are talking about RPI. And I’m not sure where you got your info, but southwestern didn’t dominate them. They were down 14-0 until SK’s QB got hurt. You don’t have to have a great offense when you can put up over 40 on teams like Highlands and woodford co. That would be like me saying Johnson central doesn’t have a good offense because they only put up 14 on north laurel. Which I don’t believe.  But yea a lot of Corbin people think they are good just like some JCs fans  think North laurel was a “good team”. You said “ tonight is any indication, the Jaguars should be very competitive in their district”. Implying since they beat you guys they were gonna be competitive. Which is the same thing you pretty much just said about Corbin fans last year in your post. This year Only difference is SK is at the top of RPI and top 20 on calpreps system. But I couldn’t care less about JC, SK, your assessment of them or any opinions on it or last year. You said Corbin’s schedule was weak, i provided facts, not my assessment of them, and numbers. You said RPI rewards weak schedules and even gave two teams, you might I remind everyone, finished below teams with less wins…. I refuted that claim with SoS and different computer rating. You let your dislike of Corbin cloud your judgment on anything and everything correlated with them, regardless of different facts from various sources.

Still not sure what your Trinity comment is about. As I said verbatum, “yea they have strong wins, but they are out of state.” Again,
They had less wins they the 2 you mentioned and are still rated above. But that RPI rewards bad schedules???? And that was the topic.  I’m not sure where Trinity schedule and Corbin’s come into play? Yea I’m thankful we don’t have trinitys schedule I guess? But I’m thankful we don’t have yours as well. I’m not concerned with other teams schedules in that context.

Your last paragraph is just a deflection of the question again and an attempt to answer a question that no one asked but goes along with your narrative. I don’t think anyone is getting “hyped” about a Calpreps rating haha. I don’t think we are 3 in the state either. Once more you answered a question that wasn’t asked,  no one said champions were determined by Polls or computers. Your comment was about Corbin’s “weak” schedule and RPI. And computers DO determine SoS and RPI. Which is what the entire post and question were about. So again, if anyone else would like to show me how RPI rewards weak schedules, I’m more than willing to listen maybe have a friendly debate, and change my opinion if need be. But please provide facts so I can check them out, not an opinion of a team you’ve probably never seen. And please, don’t redirect the question to your narrative of opinions and the factual stuff you do produce has nothing to do with RPI.
Yea, you already answered your own question. Simon Kenton is #2 in 6A RPI after playing what was a weak schedule for a 6A team. As for Southwestern, I listened to most of their game against Simon Kenton and the Simon Kenton defense could not handle their physical style on the LOS at all after SK jumped out to an early lead. JC played SK in both Crone's freshman and sophomore seasons and the same thing happened to them. Their offense was pretty good but their defense was a sieve. I was surprised that Corbin struggled against them. I don't dislike Corbin and all and will be pulling for them if they finally get past Johnson Central this season.

The fact that the RPI punishes teams for playing out of strong out of state teams has everything with this thread. If the purpose of the RPI is to ensure that the best teams are rewarded with home field advantage and make it to the semifinals, then it is a miserable failure. Trinity and Saint X are the two best teams in 6A and Simon Kenton is not even among the best five 6A teams, yet there they are at #2.

Corbin is undefeated against a weak schedule and they are #1 in the RPI. If that is not being rewarded for playing a weak schedule, then I don't know what is. Both Boyle County and Lexington Catholic have played stronger schedules and have better wins, IMO. I have watched Corbin, Pikeville, Boyle County, and Lexington Catholic games live streamed, so don't presume that I have not watched any of them play. Your posts are exactly like the ones that filled this forum last season. Corbin has a good team. I am glad for the players' sake that they are enjoying a very good season.
lol. Again every metric says different, but because you listened to it, or watched it, they are all wrong, regardless of all the different metrics from different sources. Again, all assumptions like I said in my OP, is the problem. People ignore black and white and go with their “own” opinion. Are the numbers wrong sometimes? Yep. But not that often. 

So let’s do this. Should FD be number one in 5A? They played a weaker schedule than Corbin? 

should JC even be where they are? The same weak teams Corbin played put a clock on a team that beat you and a team you beat by one? 

I said in my first post the problem is people ignore the evidence out there and assume they know more about a team with their tinted shades on than what the evidence shows. But if your only argument against facts and black and white is again, “what you listened to” or honestly just your thoughts. My argument is at rest because you’re doing exactly what I said, ignoring objective evidence. 

and I’m not sure what “type” of post you’re talking about, taking up for a number 1
RPI? Yes.  Because there’s proof out there,  not just someone’s opinion of it. I’m not sure why you keep bringing up last year, we got a 3rd place finish in RPI last year, BECAUSE OF A WEAK SCHEDULE. Haha. I know you’re not gonna provide any evidence to back up your claim or “weak
scheduling” other than opinions, that’s fine. It’s a message board you can. But I would appreciate if you’d answer those two questions. 


does FD deserve #1 RPI with their weak schedule, and should Johnson even be where they are with a 1.1 SoS?
Both CalPreps and Massey has Frederick Douglas ranked #1 in 5A, so yes I do consider them to be the top team in 5A.  FD also had a very impressive win over Bryan Station, as did Boyle County. Corbin's best win was a narrow one over a 1A team.

Most Corbin fans were sure that Corbin was the best team in 4A last season and they were still sure that Corbin was better than Johnson Central even after losing to them for the second consecutive season in a game that was not all that close. Corbin has not beaten a team as good as either Scott County or Lexington Catholic. One would expect that Corbin's fans who show a little humility after what happened last season. If I was not a Johnson Central graduate, I would probably be hoping for Corbin to win the title just to avoid a repeat of all of the whining about their coaches that followed last year's loss.  Big Grin

I am finished with this discussion. Corbin and Johnson Central will probably play in week 3 and I will say in advance that if they play, then I will acknowledge that the winner of the game has the best team this season. I hope that Corbin fans will commit to doing the same.
So calpreps #1 ranking of FD is correct but we’ll just disregard the #4A ranking, oh and their SoS ranking haha. I’m sure you thought you were better than Franklin co and boyle both times too. And I can remember a certain fans crying saying if we didn’t have an injury it would have been a different game. I bet you are finished with it. I just  asked for proof of RPI and your rebuttal was your opinion. And you start talking about CORBIN again, and last year for some reason.  But again, it’s message board you can answer and say what you want. But you still didn’t answer the question about JC being where they are with a weak schedule they have over a team like Franklin co who has had to play a Scott county team, Ballard, Corbin, etc. you probably think I don’t like you, and whether you care or not, I do. But I don’t like people talking out of both sides and using one argument to defend their teams and the same to berate another’s. Or talking about fans crying or playing the “what if”
games when in fact I have quoted you doing the same exact thing. We get it, Corbin isn’t the king of the Ky. They have a number one ranking because of an objectively hard schedule that I proved with computer rating and Polls, and a biased fans opinion of them. But again, it’s a message board. Its meant for opinions and debates so I don’t have to tell you, you’re more than welcomed to an opinion. But I’m not talking about last year, fans, or even opinions. So feel free to reread my OP about RPI and respond with factual evidence and I’ll listen. Or keep going in the same and someone else can take it up.
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RE: What Changes , If Any, Would You Make to the Current Playoff System? - by Hound05 - 11-03-2022, 01:49 PM

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