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Ashland self-reports possible recruiting violation to the KHSAA
(06-23-2022, 10:46 AM)16thregioner Wrote: I agree that Mays is as good of a coach as the region has seen in years.  Most coaches in the area are just taking checks and treating their sports like another class they get paid to oversee.  Mays unequivocally stands out from the rest in that regard and it’s not even close.  He knows what he’s doing as far as running a program and making it legitimate.  Honestly, all of the other area coaches likely hate him because he makes them look so bad.

He just ran into a psycho parent who has clearly tied his identity to the success of his son’s held back “super team”.  Getting a call from a Boyd parent alone should have set off alarms in Mays’ head since they despise Ashland.  Mays apparently didn’t do the research on the psychology of this parent either, as he had posted Facebook rants last year about Ashland not wanting his held back son to play an extra middle school season.  Foolish of Mays.  One mistake can tarnish a career.

I liken it to the Ray Rice incident.  When the world heard he hit his fiance, it was 2 game suspension.  When TMZ released the video, though, Rice never played again.

Nobody reasonable is knocking his work ethic or dedication and I would disagree and say that most other basketball coaches in the region put in just as many hours but just don't have the resources (agree, not all).  The problem people have is if you have the resources and you have the drive, why not do it the right way.  Maybe you don't end up 33-0 with 4 straight regional titles, but you end up 26-4 with 2 regional titles (that's a huge success done the right way).  Recruiting in a sense does happen, but if you heard the recording, this recruiting was a on different level than any coach would attempt in my opinion.  It sounded very organized, well thought, and with a planned recruiting pitch that had been perfected with several years of development. Total assumption, but it would appear that he has been aggressively hitting the recruiting trail over the last few years and it had become second nature (given no push back) which made him more reckless in his attempts.  After losing the Porter kid from last year, I'm guessing he felt some pressure to maintain that level of success and was pushing even harder.

Most other Kentucky high school coaches that "recruit" - "Hey we sure would like to have your kid play for us.  You would get all the playing time you wanted, I don't know the rules but kids transfer all the time with no issue."  And that is the entire conversation.  No mention of 3-stripe, gear, AAU Programs, College Coaches, Division 1, or NBA agents in a 50 minute recruitment session.

(06-23-2022, 11:42 AM)SocratesKy Wrote:
(06-23-2022, 10:46 AM)16thregioner Wrote: I agree that Mays is as good of a coach as the region has seen in years.  Most coaches in the area are just taking checks and treating their sports like another class they get paid to oversee.  Mays unequivocally stands out from the rest in that regard and it’s not even close.  He knows what he’s doing as far as running a program and making it legitimate.  Honestly, all of the other area coaches likely hate him because he makes them look so bad.

He just ran into a psycho parent who has clearly tied his identity to the success of his son’s held back “super team”.  Getting a call from a Boyd parent alone should have set off alarms in Mays’ head since they despise Ashland.  Mays apparently didn’t do the research on the psychology of this parent either, as he had posted Facebook rants last year about Ashland not wanting his held back son to play an extra middle school season.  Foolish of Mays.  One mistake can tarnish a career.

I liken it to the Ray Rice incident.  When the world heard he hit his fiance, it was 2 game suspension.  When TMZ released the video, though, Rice never played again.

Nobody reasonable is knocking his work ethic or dedication and I would disagree and say that most other basketball coaches in the region put in just as many hours but just don't have the resources (agree, not all).  The problem people have is if you have the resources and you have the drive, why not do it the right way.  Maybe you don't end up 33-0 with 4 straight regional titles, but you end up 26-4 with 2 regional titles (that's a huge success done the right way).  Recruiting in a sense does happen, but if you heard the recording, this recruiting was a on different level than any coach would attempt in my opinion.  It sounded very organized, well thought, and with a planned recruiting pitch that had been perfected with several years of development. Total assumption, but it would appear that he has been aggressively hitting the recruiting trail over the last few years and it had become second nature (given no push back) which made him more reckless in his attempts.  After losing the Porter kid from last year, I'm guessing he felt some pressure to maintain that level of success and was pushing even harder.

Most other Kentucky high school coaches that "recruit" - "Hey we sure would like to have your kid play for us.  You would get all the playing time you wanted, I don't know the rules but kids transfer all the time with no issue."  And that is the entire conversation.  No mention of 3-stripe, gear, AAU Programs, College Coaches, Division 1, or NBA agents in a 50 minute recruitment session.

And yes I agree that he is a good coach!

(06-23-2022, 11:35 AM)LOOKAYANNER Wrote:
(06-23-2022, 11:21 AM)jamesclay Wrote: If Mays keeps his job, the entire Ashland administration should be fired. This is blatant cheating and to suggest anything different is laughable.
Where’s the cheating James?? The fellow called him, not the other way around. 99% of coaches, girls and boys, will talk to a parent of an eighth grader if they call them and say they are thinking of transferring to their school. 99% of them will also say if that’s the parent’s intention they are welcome and just do the proper paper work. 99% of them will give the good highlight speech about their school. There’s no “blatant cheating” on Coach Mays’ part here, no matter how much you spin it that way or want it to be that way. Mays is not a cheater or recruiter. He is a very good coach who is proud of his teams and his school.
Again obviously you haven't heard the recording.  If you don't want to listen to the entire thing then just pick any random 30 second portion of the recording that is now publicly available.  And as if it was even relevant, the parent called back the coach that initially called him.  How many times did the coach say "confidential"?  Wonder why he felt compelled to say that so many times?  

No way people can take you serious in this forum.
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RE: Ashland self-reports possible recruiting violation to the KHSAA - by SocratesKy - 06-23-2022, 11:42 AM

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