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09-15-2021, 09:23 PM
(09-15-2021, 09:12 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:(09-15-2021, 08:57 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote:As I have already said, I consider Woodward a liberal political hack and have no plans to buy or read his book. Trump says that if the allegations are true, then Milley committed treason. Until I see evidence that Trump authorized Esper and/or Milley to conduct foreign policy on his behalf, then there is no reason to believe that was the case.(09-15-2021, 08:52 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:Outsider posted what happened according to other reports.(09-15-2021, 08:45 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote:So, the Democrat talking points have been distributed and the Biden apologists are at it again.(09-15-2021, 08:31 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote: Please stop lying about me, Cardfan1. Advocating that we judge historical figures in the context of the times in which they lived is not "celebrating" them. It is mostly liberals and radical Islamic fundamentalists who are on a mission to erase large chunks of history by toppling statues, changing street names, and generally demonizing historical figures who were widely regarded as great men in their own time, as they glorify modern day social media "stars" and common thugs. But that is the subject for another thread. This thread is about the alleged treason of General Milley.Hoot, seems there is more to the story than what Woodward reported.
Even I am amazed at how quickly you decided that the right thing to do with a traitor was to blame Donald Trump. What is ironic is that the best play politically for Democrats to gain some credibility would have been to have led the charge to fire Milley. They could have made Milley the fall guy for Biden's screw-up of the withdrawal from Afghanistan and rid the country of a traitor.
Biden's poll numbers would have gone up because the Never Trumpers and independents would have been impressed by Democrats' unusual lack of partisanship. But liberals' minds cannot fathom acting in a nonpartisan way, even for political gain. They would rather pretend that a traitor is a hero because he once was part of Trump's administration. So, you continue to mischaracterize a small riot at the Capitol as an insurrection and praise the traitor under your noses.
Will you check out the rest of the book to see if he says anything else you like?![]()
A small riot at the Capitol to usurp the election process and injure Congressmen.
Which do you believe?
Woodward?
or those reports that support Milley’s decisions?
seems like both are Democrat talking points.![]()
do you support Woodward’s assessment that Trump was attempting to steal the election?
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gen-jac...of-context
Go ahead and bow out @TheRealThing.
“General Jack Keane: I think these are responsible actions that are being taken, not the contrary. Based on what the Pentagon is reporting and the feedback we’re getting from Jennifer Griffin and I trust her and her sources, by the way, they have been impeccable in the past and I take them at face value here, I don’t see anything that is undermining the civilian control of the military. If you took the facts that are being reported and I think being sensationalized in the media.“

Are literally waiting for the biggest liar on the history of the planet to tell you what to think?
puke.
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Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by The Outsider - 09-14-2021, 10:45 PM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by jetpilot - 09-14-2021, 10:54 PM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by Hoot Gibson - 09-14-2021, 11:04 PM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by Hoot Gibson - 09-14-2021, 10:55 PM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by jetpilot - 09-14-2021, 11:10 PM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by Hoot Gibson - 09-14-2021, 11:25 PM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by TheRealThing - 09-15-2021, 12:00 PM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by Hoot Gibson - 09-15-2021, 12:07 PM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by Cardfan1 - 09-15-2021, 07:23 AM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by Hoot Gibson - 09-15-2021, 08:12 AM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by Cardfan1 - 09-15-2021, 08:48 AM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by Hoot Gibson - 09-15-2021, 08:57 AM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by Cardfan1 - 09-15-2021, 10:56 AM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by Hoot Gibson - 09-15-2021, 11:05 AM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by Cardfan1 - 09-15-2021, 11:30 AM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by jetpilot - 09-15-2021, 11:41 AM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by Hoot Gibson - 09-15-2021, 12:00 PM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by Cardfan1 - 09-15-2021, 12:18 PM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by Hoot Gibson - 09-15-2021, 12:27 PM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by Cardfan1 - 09-15-2021, 12:44 PM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by Hoot Gibson - 09-15-2021, 12:59 PM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by Cardfan1 - 09-15-2021, 02:08 PM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by TheRealThing - 09-15-2021, 03:49 PM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by jetpilot - 09-15-2021, 03:55 PM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by TheRealThing - 09-15-2021, 06:49 PM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by Cardfan1 - 09-15-2021, 07:03 PM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by jetpilot - 09-15-2021, 07:11 PM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by TheRealThing - 09-15-2021, 09:10 PM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by jetpilot - 09-16-2021, 12:03 AM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by TheRealThing - 09-17-2021, 02:07 PM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by jetpilot - 09-15-2021, 11:41 AM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by Hoot Gibson - 09-15-2021, 12:03 PM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by TheRealThing - 09-15-2021, 12:20 PM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by Cardfan1 - 09-15-2021, 12:34 PM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by TheRealThing - 09-15-2021, 12:42 PM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by Hoot Gibson - 09-15-2021, 12:49 PM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by Cardfan1 - 09-15-2021, 12:26 PM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by The Outsider - 09-15-2021, 01:55 PM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by Hoot Gibson - 09-15-2021, 02:11 PM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by jetpilot - 09-15-2021, 03:53 PM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by jetpilot - 09-15-2021, 11:29 AM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by Cardfan1 - 09-15-2021, 02:20 PM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by jetpilot - 09-15-2021, 02:55 PM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by Cardfan1 - 09-15-2021, 03:47 PM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by Hoot Gibson - 09-15-2021, 03:00 PM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by Cardfan1 - 09-15-2021, 04:11 PM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by Hoot Gibson - 09-15-2021, 04:39 PM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by jetpilot - 09-15-2021, 04:09 PM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by jetpilot - 09-15-2021, 04:22 PM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by Hoot Gibson - 09-15-2021, 04:42 PM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by jetpilot - 09-15-2021, 05:00 PM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by Cardfan1 - 09-15-2021, 06:43 PM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by Hoot Gibson - 09-15-2021, 07:34 PM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by Cardfan1 - 09-15-2021, 07:53 PM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by Hoot Gibson - 09-15-2021, 08:31 PM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by Cardfan1 - 09-15-2021, 08:45 PM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by Hoot Gibson - 09-15-2021, 08:52 PM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by Cardfan1 - 09-15-2021, 08:57 PM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by Hoot Gibson - 09-15-2021, 09:12 PM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by Cardfan1 - 09-15-2021, 09:23 PM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by Hoot Gibson - 09-15-2021, 09:48 PM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by The Outsider - 09-15-2021, 08:09 PM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by The Outsider - 09-15-2021, 09:36 PM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by The Outsider - 09-15-2021, 10:28 PM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by Hoot Gibson - 09-16-2021, 12:35 AM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by jetpilot - 09-16-2021, 12:42 AM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by Cardfan1 - 09-15-2021, 10:48 PM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by Hoot Gibson - 09-16-2021, 12:51 AM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by jetpilot - 09-16-2021, 01:14 AM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by Cardfan1 - 09-16-2021, 12:35 PM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by Hoot Gibson - 09-16-2021, 12:51 PM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by Cardfan1 - 09-16-2021, 02:54 PM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by Hoot Gibson - 09-16-2021, 03:44 PM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by TheRealThing - 09-16-2021, 05:35 PM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by Cardfan1 - 09-17-2021, 10:55 AM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by vector#1 - 09-18-2021, 02:42 PM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by Hoot Gibson - 09-18-2021, 03:01 PM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by vector#1 - 09-18-2021, 03:03 PM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by Hoot Gibson - 09-18-2021, 03:13 PM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by vector#1 - 09-18-2021, 03:17 PM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by Hoot Gibson - 09-18-2021, 03:22 PM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by vector#1 - 09-18-2021, 03:27 PM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by Hoot Gibson - 09-19-2021, 09:05 AM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by vector#1 - 09-19-2021, 10:11 AM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by Hoot Gibson - 09-19-2021, 11:18 AM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by vector#1 - 09-19-2021, 11:37 AM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by Hoot Gibson - 09-19-2021, 11:40 AM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by vector#1 - 09-19-2021, 11:48 AM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by Hoot Gibson - 09-19-2021, 11:55 AM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by vector#1 - 09-19-2021, 12:12 PM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by Hoot Gibson - 09-19-2021, 12:22 PM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by vector#1 - 09-19-2021, 01:40 PM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by Hoot Gibson - 09-20-2021, 08:25 AM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by vector#1 - 09-20-2021, 08:28 AM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by jetpilot - 09-20-2021, 08:48 AM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by vector#1 - 09-20-2021, 09:08 AM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by jetpilot - 09-20-2021, 09:21 AM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by vector#1 - 09-20-2021, 09:54 AM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by jetpilot - 09-20-2021, 11:22 AM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by vector#1 - 09-20-2021, 11:49 AM
RE: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons - by jetpilot - 09-20-2021, 11:59 AM
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