[commonsense]

Originally Posted by commonsense
8.3.2 Situation E (2006 Case Book) R1 who is on first base, attempts to steal second base. (a) F2 does not make a throw or (b) F2 throws the ball into center field. In both cases F6 fakes a tag on R1. RULING: In (a), R1 is awarde second base on the obstruction call. In (b), the umpire shall call a delayed dead ball and award bases that in his judgment the runner would have obtained had the obstruction not occurred.



Thanks for posting this commonsense. Okay this still comes off as of confusion to me, because it says if a steal is attemped fake tag at second the runner is awarded second base on obstruction call.

Okay scenerio from last night, runners at 1st and 3rd. Runner at first attempts steal, SS covers 2nd, catcher fakes throw and SS fakes the tag. Runner was safe at second already. So the umpire awarded 3rd to stealing runner and runner at third was awarded home. In the ruling is only says runner is awarded second base in the given scenerio. Maybe I'm misunderstanding and second base is meaning as in another base. If that's the case I think it needs to be reworded to runner is awarded to advance to the next base.From what I read, there was not a throw to second and a tag was faked. By reading the rule book and case book on fake tags this is what most likely should have happened. After the play was over, umpire should have called time, then issued a team warning to whichever team faked the tag. The next offender on that team who fakes a tag is ejected. Since the runner could not have made third even without the tag, I can't see him being awarded third and a run scoring.

I will say that there are always two sides to every story and umpires are usually on top of all situations. I think there is more to this than any of us may know. Which team scored a run on this play anyway?
Does the 15th region winner play the 16th this year in the semi-state? I have seen some good teams here in the 16th and look forward to that playoff if it happens...