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08-06-2021, 02:15 PM
You are the First Republican on here that is a American First kudos
Now on to question #2 What do you think about the voting laws being passed today that if the state's legislators don't like the results they can step in and take over the election ?
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Well, I think the question is based on false information.
Under the constitution itself, state legislators have the power to select whomever they so choose as their electors. Look at Colorado and a few other states. They now give their electors to the winner of the national vote, and will 100% ignore their own state's will. So they are basically doing what you're suggesting. They could pick Trump, and Biden win the national vote.. then they award the electors to Biden. Is that fair? I bet not, if you are consistent.
As Gore v Bush noted back in 2000, Scalia (the author) wrote for the majority of 7... there is NO constitutional right to vote for presidential electors. States are free to decide who and how they are chosen.
So the premise itself, I'm a constitutionalist first and foremost. I believe that states have the absolute right to determine their election laws. Politifact covered the 'don't like the results they can step in and take over" thing and determined it was 'speculative' at best. Most of the states ALREADY have that power. They just don't ever exercise, and likely never will. 2016 was year it would have happened, and no one came remotely close to it. Not even REMOTELY close to it. Just a few outliers here and there that said they should.. mostly Trump saying it.
That said, I'd like to see things go back to how they worked for 200 years without a problem.
1 election day. You go, you vote, you go home. 4 years later, you repeat.
But I have no problem with more liberal or more conservative laws regarding elections. Its the least of my worries. My focus is on who is running for those elecitons.
Now on to question #2 What do you think about the voting laws being passed today that if the state's legislators don't like the results they can step in and take over the election ?
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Well, I think the question is based on false information.
Under the constitution itself, state legislators have the power to select whomever they so choose as their electors. Look at Colorado and a few other states. They now give their electors to the winner of the national vote, and will 100% ignore their own state's will. So they are basically doing what you're suggesting. They could pick Trump, and Biden win the national vote.. then they award the electors to Biden. Is that fair? I bet not, if you are consistent.
As Gore v Bush noted back in 2000, Scalia (the author) wrote for the majority of 7... there is NO constitutional right to vote for presidential electors. States are free to decide who and how they are chosen.
So the premise itself, I'm a constitutionalist first and foremost. I believe that states have the absolute right to determine their election laws. Politifact covered the 'don't like the results they can step in and take over" thing and determined it was 'speculative' at best. Most of the states ALREADY have that power. They just don't ever exercise, and likely never will. 2016 was year it would have happened, and no one came remotely close to it. Not even REMOTELY close to it. Just a few outliers here and there that said they should.. mostly Trump saying it.
That said, I'd like to see things go back to how they worked for 200 years without a problem.
1 election day. You go, you vote, you go home. 4 years later, you repeat.
But I have no problem with more liberal or more conservative laws regarding elections. Its the least of my worries. My focus is on who is running for those elecitons.
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