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06-08-2021, 05:19 PM
(06-08-2021, 03:35 PM)TheRealThing Wrote:TRT watch out you will hurt yourself(06-08-2021, 03:19 PM)The Outsider Wrote:(06-08-2021, 01:55 PM)TheRealThing Wrote:(06-07-2021, 09:59 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:(06-07-2021, 09:32 PM)The Outsider Wrote: I'm trying to stay out of this one due of mixed feelings, plus not enough knowledge on the matter to know what I'm talking about. That being said, Vector makes a very valid point concerning the irony of the response of some of the membership on here.No, he actually does not make a valid point. The lawsuits that Trump and his allies filed were filed in the courts that had jurisdiction. In many cases, they had no option but to file first in state court. For example, the Pennsylvania Supreme Court changed the deadline for accepting absentee ballots, which was contrary to the deadline set by the state legislature. Pennsylvania's Supreme Court is elected and the decision to override state law was decided along a party line vote. There decision left the court open to a federal challenge because the plaintiffs alleged that the PA Supreme Court violated the U.S. Constitution. The Supreme Court ultimately declined to rule on that lawsuit on the basis that it was moot - the election was over and the Court's decision was not made until April.
Plaintiffs that bring lawsuits to challenge election results cannot ask a state court to rule on violations of voters' constitutional rights. In some cases, plaintiffs have to establish that they have exhausted options to have state courts address their grievances before a federal court will accept the case. It is clear that the U.S. Supreme Court believed that the state legislatures should have been the driving force behind appealing election results. The Pennsylvania case, in particular, seemed very strong but the USSC's decision to delay a decision on whether to accept the case until it was too late to matter demonstrated its reluctance to decide the election.
In other words, the alleged violations of election law and constitutional rights drive plaintiffs' decisions about where to file lawsuits - not the preference of the plaintiffs for one jurisdiction over another. Federal courts are not going to hear cases alleging violations of state law.
LOL, typing at the same time. ^^
My comment apparently flew right over your heads.
So your statement declaring your lack of understanding of the matter at hand, causes you to sort of stay out of it. Yet you align yourself with vector (whose on-line persona to date, would have required him to have had a brain transplant to have written the surprisingly lucid post in the first place).
But in your professed shortfall and inexplicable agreement with vector, we are to feel put upon intellectually as if we are the ones who don't get it? Let me think about that one for a few minutes.
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Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by Hoot Gibson - 06-06-2021, 08:12 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by vector#1 - 06-07-2021, 10:31 AM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by TheRealThing - 06-07-2021, 10:43 AM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by vector#1 - 06-07-2021, 10:57 AM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by Hoot Gibson - 06-07-2021, 12:16 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by vector#1 - 06-07-2021, 12:17 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by TheRealThing - 06-07-2021, 04:20 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by vector#1 - 06-07-2021, 04:38 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by jetpilot - 06-07-2021, 06:43 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by Hoot Gibson - 06-07-2021, 07:25 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by vector#1 - 06-07-2021, 08:11 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by The Outsider - 06-07-2021, 09:32 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by Hoot Gibson - 06-07-2021, 09:59 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by TheRealThing - 06-08-2021, 01:55 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by The Outsider - 06-08-2021, 03:19 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by TheRealThing - 06-08-2021, 03:35 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by vector#1 - 06-08-2021, 05:19 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by The Outsider - 06-09-2021, 05:04 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by Hoot Gibson - 06-09-2021, 05:37 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by vector#1 - 06-09-2021, 05:45 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by TheRealThing - 06-09-2021, 08:49 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by Hoot Gibson - 06-08-2021, 06:02 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by vector#1 - 06-08-2021, 06:26 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by TheRealThing - 06-08-2021, 01:50 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by jetpilot - 06-07-2021, 06:50 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by Old School Hound - 06-07-2021, 06:09 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by jetpilot - 06-07-2021, 06:38 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by Hoot Gibson - 06-07-2021, 07:22 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by TheRealThing - 06-07-2021, 08:18 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by vector#1 - 06-07-2021, 08:29 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by jetpilot - 06-07-2021, 06:57 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by Hoot Gibson - 06-07-2021, 08:18 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by TheRealThing - 06-07-2021, 08:23 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by Hoot Gibson - 06-07-2021, 08:34 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by vector#1 - 06-07-2021, 08:37 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by jetpilot - 06-07-2021, 08:13 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by jetpilot - 06-07-2021, 08:31 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by jetpilot - 06-07-2021, 08:38 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by Hoot Gibson - 06-07-2021, 08:42 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by Hoot Gibson - 06-08-2021, 06:38 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by Hoot Gibson - 06-08-2021, 09:23 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by Cardfan1 - 06-09-2021, 10:09 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by Hoot Gibson - 06-09-2021, 10:43 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by Cardfan1 - 06-09-2021, 10:47 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by Old School Hound - 06-09-2021, 11:36 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by Hoot Gibson - 06-09-2021, 11:40 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by Cardfan1 - 06-10-2021, 01:25 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by TheRealThing - 06-10-2021, 02:16 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by Hoot Gibson - 06-10-2021, 06:55 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by Cardfan1 - 06-11-2021, 03:38 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by TheRealThing - 06-11-2021, 04:00 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by vector#1 - 06-11-2021, 04:04 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by Cardfan1 - 06-12-2021, 08:14 AM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by vector#1 - 06-12-2021, 08:28 AM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by Cardfan1 - 06-12-2021, 08:58 AM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by TheRealThing - 06-12-2021, 01:36 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by vector#1 - 06-12-2021, 03:34 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by Cardfan1 - 06-12-2021, 08:10 PM
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