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06-07-2021, 04:38 PM
(06-07-2021, 04:20 PM)TheRealThing Wrote:TRT let's be real Joe didn't come out for Brett till after he seen they had enough votes. Joe represents a state Trump carried by 40% he's lucky he's still in office he knows next election is going to be tough. But if thinks they are going to be bipartisan effort on anything President Biden wants it's not going to happen not with Mitch. If you couldn't get 10 GQP members to investigate a attempted coup. Well it's not going to happen. Lift the filibuster majority rules.(06-07-2021, 12:16 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:(06-07-2021, 10:43 AM)TheRealThing Wrote: Hoot, Jet, I didn't realize what a refreshing experience blocking vector could be. It's kind of like a sewer line. You know it's down there in the ground and that's where it needs to stay.I am sorry to say that I fell off the wagon last night but I'm not expanding any more of his replies today.
Joe Manchin and Tulsi Gabbard are the only two Democrats with any form of remaining conscience in the entire Congress.
I am with you on Gabbard but I am not so sure that Manchin won't capitulate if Democrats put enough goodies on the table. It bothers me that not a single Democrat has voiced concern over the fact that Congress has no jurisdiction over the details of how states run their elections. Obviously, other constitutional rights would come into play if a state banned a certain class of citizens from voting, etc., but Congress has no authority to set rules for absentee ballots, early voting, or requiring a voter ID.
Manchin is right about the Democrats' bill being divisive, but it would be great if he would go on record saying that it is unconstitutional. I would have more confidence that he would not flip-flop if he had made such a statement.
Totally agree. He has caved in the past but he did stick in there in regard to Brett Kananaugh. If he were to point out the constitutional check put on the federal government that would be huge. Otherwise as long as Dems hold the majority the Constitution will be construed to say whatever they want it to.
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Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by Hoot Gibson - 06-06-2021, 08:12 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by vector#1 - 06-07-2021, 10:31 AM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by TheRealThing - 06-07-2021, 10:43 AM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by vector#1 - 06-07-2021, 10:57 AM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by Hoot Gibson - 06-07-2021, 12:16 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by vector#1 - 06-07-2021, 12:17 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by TheRealThing - 06-07-2021, 04:20 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by vector#1 - 06-07-2021, 04:38 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by jetpilot - 06-07-2021, 06:43 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by Hoot Gibson - 06-07-2021, 07:25 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by vector#1 - 06-07-2021, 08:11 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by The Outsider - 06-07-2021, 09:32 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by Hoot Gibson - 06-07-2021, 09:59 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by TheRealThing - 06-08-2021, 01:55 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by The Outsider - 06-08-2021, 03:19 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by TheRealThing - 06-08-2021, 03:35 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by vector#1 - 06-08-2021, 05:19 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by The Outsider - 06-09-2021, 05:04 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by Hoot Gibson - 06-09-2021, 05:37 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by vector#1 - 06-09-2021, 05:45 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by TheRealThing - 06-09-2021, 08:49 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by Hoot Gibson - 06-08-2021, 06:02 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by vector#1 - 06-08-2021, 06:26 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by TheRealThing - 06-08-2021, 01:50 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by jetpilot - 06-07-2021, 06:50 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by Old School Hound - 06-07-2021, 06:09 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by jetpilot - 06-07-2021, 06:38 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by Hoot Gibson - 06-07-2021, 07:22 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by TheRealThing - 06-07-2021, 08:18 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by vector#1 - 06-07-2021, 08:29 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by jetpilot - 06-07-2021, 06:57 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by Hoot Gibson - 06-07-2021, 08:18 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by TheRealThing - 06-07-2021, 08:23 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by Hoot Gibson - 06-07-2021, 08:34 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by vector#1 - 06-07-2021, 08:37 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by jetpilot - 06-07-2021, 08:13 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by jetpilot - 06-07-2021, 08:31 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by jetpilot - 06-07-2021, 08:38 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by Hoot Gibson - 06-07-2021, 08:42 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by Hoot Gibson - 06-08-2021, 06:38 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by Hoot Gibson - 06-08-2021, 09:23 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by Cardfan1 - 06-09-2021, 10:09 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by Hoot Gibson - 06-09-2021, 10:43 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by Cardfan1 - 06-09-2021, 10:47 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by Old School Hound - 06-09-2021, 11:36 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by Hoot Gibson - 06-09-2021, 11:40 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by Cardfan1 - 06-10-2021, 01:25 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by TheRealThing - 06-10-2021, 02:16 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by Hoot Gibson - 06-10-2021, 06:55 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by Cardfan1 - 06-11-2021, 03:38 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by TheRealThing - 06-11-2021, 04:00 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by vector#1 - 06-11-2021, 04:04 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by Cardfan1 - 06-12-2021, 08:14 AM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by vector#1 - 06-12-2021, 08:28 AM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by Cardfan1 - 06-12-2021, 08:58 AM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by TheRealThing - 06-12-2021, 01:36 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by vector#1 - 06-12-2021, 03:34 PM
RE: Manchin to vote against bill federalizing elections, dealing major blow to Democrats - by Cardfan1 - 06-12-2021, 08:10 PM
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