[TheRealThing]

Van HagarAnd 75 million voted against him. So there’s that. I guess losing by nearly five million votes proves how well-liked you are.
  As for my “litany of talking points” almost everything I said can be accessed at any time on video, watch your boy in action and see if you really, really, really think he’s ok. You’re ok with the Billy Bush interview? With the way he humiliated that reporter?  Thought you were always quoting Scripture, maybe you can help me on some of the passages that condone that. The church was 79% in his favor? The church cares about one issue only, and Trump is pro-life only because it served him politically to be, you know as well as I do he doesn’t really care one way or the other about it. If Trump was just an average Joe who behaved the way he does, what church would want him as a member?  Anyway, it doesn’t matter now, he has no shot with the courts because there is zero proof of any fraud with this election. The great national nightmare of his presidency is over, he can play golf every day for the next two months if he so chooses. But my guess is he will try everything he can lay his hands on to try and disrupt the peaceful transition of power, which his own party mates have already said would be a disgrace.  That would be more in character for him.


It would be my pleasure.
Romans chap 3 KJV
23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;


There are powerful people on this earth, many of them lawyer/politicians, that are real shysters. I'm sure they're having themselves a grand laugh right now watching all the back and forth between so-called Biden supporters and Trump supporters. But for the record, there were zero Trump supporters out there burning down cities, looting and plundering business districts.

If the President is right and there was wide spread voter fraud, that means somebody other than voters acted to get rid of Trump and put in a different government. That to me is a very big problem for both of us there Van. And there are a great many noteworthy folks out there backing him up on the order of Jay Sekulow, whose argued a great many cases before the SC.

But to get specifically to your having judged the character of Donald J Trump. In the eyes of God ALL men are sinners. Sin must be punished and therefore all men are condemned to die. Enter the Lord Jesus Who did live a perfect life and offered up His perfect life as a sacrifice for all of us. Some of us accept that by grace through faith, but most according to God do not.
Matthew Chap 7
1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Now I'm not prepared to say DJT is saved, any more than I would dare to say that he is not. I do know that he publicly honors the sovereignty of God. But the reason there are few that find it, (the way) is because contrary to the rationale of men, it has not one thing to with how good any man may be, or how much good he has done. It has to do solely with each man bowing before God, confessing his sin, and accepting that perfect gift that the Lord Jesus provided by His work. That work which culminated with His dying on the cross that His life would become the reconciliation of sinful men.

President Trump talks a bit rough and he has been no saint. But really I don't get how it is that so many think they've got any kind of leave before the Almighty to cast all these stones at the President. Every man's life is lived one way before accepting Christ, and another way after he accepts Christ. The Apostle Paul himself, even as he was consumed with setting the quintessential example of service to the Lord by spreading the gospel throughout Europe, was convinced he was "chief among sinners." Before Paul served the Lord he was guilty of a lot of hurt to others. I don't know about you but I am not about to bring up Paul's past life misdeeds and I am not about to bring up the President's misdeeds. None of us have the right to do that.

But it is a bit different of a situation where elected officials and their being accountable to the people of land is concerned. There is such a thing as a public record. And there is such a thing as being held accountable under the laws of this land. I still don't see where he's done the first thing off base. And you can say Trump is responsible for the deaths of 233 thousand to Covid. I say that is a ridiculous statement (given the public record). And FTR, there is plenty of proof of voter fraud. Let it come out.