[Cardfan1]

Okay, your heart is with Cardfan and so you're on his side. So be it. That doesn't change the fact that there is still right and wrong here. The epidemic has been politicized, there are going to be people out there denying what's being reported. Which is that DOCTORS, are out there in the world of the dying, prescribing HCQ and getting phenomenal results. And they're writing articles about it and in so doing, laying their professional careers on the line. That's no small thing. And the rest of the planet reporting the same results doesn't hurt their conclusions or their argument either, nor does the glowing gratitude of the patients delivered by using the drug.

Trump hasn't done one thing to deserve your ire. He's not wrong in what he says, and he hasn't been wrong in how he leads this land. In any case, not one person who walks has the moral right before God to judge the President's moral character. And to that end you obviously feel yourself worthy to judge myself as well. Nobody has to walk around with their choir robe on and their songbook open with a placid smile to be a Christian or to please God. God's people are to resist the lies, and point out the truth. AFTR the violent hate you mention? well that my friend is due to the new reality you mention. We're in the end of it all, so I ask you a question-- what is your plan? When it does get violent, and it will, you just going to wait it out and when you find yourself standing at the judgment, tell God that you think you're much better than that hypocrite Real Thing, or that racist Trump? We are each answerable for ourselves before God, and those who are saved know that they are saved going in. Though the lost hold out hope that they will be given a pass, in their hearts they know that they're not right before God. It's still easier for them to despise the saved than face the fact that they are gong to have to meet the Lord at the judgment. I say the things I do that without apology, and frankly if anything, I would be more worried that I don't do that often enough than that I go too far.

Life here on earth is all designed to give all men that one supremely significant opportunity. That's the whole of it. We are here to make a choice, for or against The One true God Who created us. No amount of writhing or disputing can change or alter that fact.

But to the new reality. I remember the time, as does Mr Trump, before that new reality. And that time was much sweeter, the debate was much tamer, the future was much brighter, and people were far more happy. We've eroded, and all Trump or the right are guilty of, is pointing out where we (America) left the path. And consider the situation for our having left that path, is it not hopeless? Conservatives have done nothing but sound the alarm, and they're hated for it. And I got a little flash for you. I don't hate Cardfan and I don't hate you. The argument isn't about Dems and Republicans, it's about what's true. In the past 50 years the left have tried diligently to redefine what is true, but try to understand. I saw it all go down.

Cardfan. Speaks categorically on matters for which there is zero evidence in support, and tries to give as good as he gets. I would guess that if Cardfan were getting the best of me you'd be all in. But of the thousands which have died a horrible death to CV, their lungs literally filling with sticky goo. How many of them could have been saved is on the heads of those who have denied them treatment on political grounds.

When was the last time Trump mentioned HCQ? :eyeroll:
If I would have made such a successful prescription, I would have it on my banners. "First in HCQ!"
Not a peep in at least 2 weeks maybe more. Maybe since April 29th when the FDA sent out a warning. Or maybe it was April 21st when the White House council led by real doctors Birx and Fauci recommended against using the drug combination. There is evidence for both of those things.
I know this about DJT if he think he is right about something and people are wrong he won't leave it alone. Something shut him up.

Zero evidence is when you stand at podium and tell the nation to "take it, what do you got to lose" when none of your panel of medical doctors suggested you do that. Then the Trump sycophants run out and try to create a narrative supporting his claim, and worse you have doctors trying to make a name or curry favor with the president gambling with their patients' lives.

Another post with too much to unpack for a "Fauci" thread.