[Van Hagar]

100 percent honesty here. There are a number of instances in the Old Testament where God used unsaved men to accomplish His will in this world. Not the least of which was King Nebuchadnezzar. Even the Roman Governor Pilate, who oversaw Israel in the time of Jesus. But owing to man's fall from grace in the garden of Eden, all men are born sinners separated from God. The point is all of us, every last one, are equally as unfit as is DJT.

Yet he does publically recognize the sovereignty of God, he does decry open abortion, and he does declare that we are one people, under God. Presidents are not pastors, and vice versa. Frankly going by their actions, it would be a hard sell in my book to believe any President we've had other than Jimmy Carter was actually a saved-by-grace Christian. But Presidents have to be leaders, and many times that means they are who they are. Roosevelt had a mistress, and most presidents have similar skeletons stashed in the closet.

I know that I am a saved man. I also know that I have no right to judge Trump or any other man, because saved folk's relationship with Christ is totally divorced from being good. Saved by grace means in no way could we ever hope to earn or deserve salvation. It is God's gift and is based solely upon men admitting that they could never merit being saved, and they understand that the cross is where their sin debt was paid. It is a choice, that must be made by every man who must confess Christ in the presence of men, and putting off that choice is the same thing as saying no. Trump is no worse than any other president who ever sat the chair. And character-wise, no other president is one whit better than MR Trump. The One Who passes down judgment says there are only two types of people. Sinners who deny Him, and sinners (the saved) who obey Him. Nobody has the right to get up on any moral high horse.

I am thankful for MR Trump and I respect him in spite of his warts.

Well, that’s a well-worded response, and actually gives me a little pause when I’m wondering about some who support Trump. And I certainly agree with you that Pres. Carter is the only truly Christian person that has held that position, definitely in my lifetime. I’ve never thought the office of the Presidency was all that compatible with someone was a true Christian.