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TheRealThing Wrote:You can put a period after almost anything. That act doesn't make the statement any more accurate, nor does it lend more credibility than it did in the case of the following Obama quote; "The affordable care act will not cost the taxpayer one dime, period." Several years later it was revealed the ACA would in fact cost the taxpayer at least 6.2 trillion and that number has been revised upward a number of times.

As I indicated I'm all through lending merit to your false assumption about the liability of the federal government to the states for health care by participating any further in your circular codependent seeking rant. The federal government's role is to help, they back up, that's it. Otherwise why even have governors? Though in many cases the people would certainly be better served without the one they have.

States do tend to lean on the federal government in times of disaster, that's true. But when every state is affected, that makes the wicket a bit more sticky. But I am confident you will continue to work at blaming Trump from every angle imaginable, it won't work. But where it does come to federal involvement in healthcare, President Trump has done miraculous work in getting the people to accept the burden of other people's care (ObamaCare) as things stand. I mean you ought to be singing his praises. I on the other hand am not so happy with him about that, because just as was warned, it was the seniors that got thrown under the bus. Health care costs very unceremoniously got transferred to their tab. It is a national disgrace to expect the aged to cough up thousands of dollars each year at their most vulnerable time of life both physically and financially for anybody, much less listless folks. I wrote MR Trump a letter outlining my concerns about the matter a got back nary a peep.

But I will go this far with the bleeding hearts. For those who at least try, and by that I mean those who are possessing of a demonstrably viable work record, let us extend the blessings of care to those folks. For those who for whatever reason will not try, let them be relegated to basic care and welfare across the board, and see if that motivates them any. But I have digressed, and back to the pandemic.

As I have said, elections have consequences. And given that the people have become woefully lacking in their judgment of those they elect to high office, our form of free self governance is in jeopardy. Frankly, history demonstrates that there is always something headed our way. And to that end Governors have duties to perform, but these days that's not the reason we put them into office. No, these days they're elected because they promise to give people stuff. In the case of Kentucky's last election for example, assuming it was all legal and legit, we kicked out Bevin and we got us another Democrat Governor. Let accountability be darned and let them goodies roll! You can get mad all you want Cardfan, States Governors willfully or not and I realize their hands are tied to an extent, have the responsibility for creating their state's own stockpiles. THEN, if those stockpiles fail it is the role of the federal to come in. Period

Otherwise like in your case, people lose proper perspective. It's just not feasible for 350 million people to lean of the Federal Government for things. You certainly won't find any free goodies enumerated in the Constitution: Article I, Sec. 8; Articles II-V; Amendments XIII-XVI, XIX-XX, XXIII-XXVI. These prerogatives belong to one of the following categories:

1) Defense, war prosecution, peace, foreign relations, foreign commerce, and interstate commerce;

2) The protection of citizens’ constitutional rights (e.g the right to vote) and ensuring that slavery remains illegal;

3) Establishing federal courts inferior to the SCOTUS;

4) Copyright protection;

5) Coining money;

6) Establishing post offices and post roads;

7) Establishing a national set of universal weights and measures;

8 ) Taxation

I posted on here a decade ago, in that post I called out LBJ for his Great Society Initiative. Why? Because once you start creating taxpayer funded special interest carve-outs for any class of people, you have begun the process of the eventual existential undermine of this land. There just is not a place to draw the line and the compromising to that end has not stopped to this day. Same thing with the States expecting to get bailed out of stressful situations, be they owing to calamity or just the self serving demands of a spoiled electorate. "When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the Republic." ---BENJAMIN FRANKLIN

So now, do continue with blaming MR Trump

There really is no other choice other than expand healthcare. The whole system will crash in the greatest time of need. I will commend the administration for pushing that out there.

Way too many holes in the Stimulus for me. Lots of working people left out.

This is a big stretch that states are on their own during a natural disaster.
IMO, this would fall under Defense definitely in this case with a foreign virus.
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