[TheRealThing]

Maybe you’re not, but it does seem the first thing you bring up when discussing the expansion of Medicare is those already who have their hand out and aren’t working. It could be an inadvertent comparison.

I saw that number from Marketwatch, but it’s more complicated. That number includes folks who are workers who may receive a credit and also billionaires who use losses and loopholes, so the 18.8% is more accurate (it’s complicated too). 45% of Americans aren’t bums.

A study published last week from Yale, Florida, and Maryland Universities says Medicare for all would save Americans would save $450 billion annually and prevent 68,000 deaths. That certainly sounds like doomsday for the United States of America.

Not that a clairvoyant could discern what your first sentence really says, but---

is it even possible for you to speak factually? When speaking of free healthcare for the privileged poor, we are discussing the expansion of Medicaid. Medicare = care as the US government has legally contracted with respect to the working citizenry. Medicaid = medical welfare. But you're certainly not kidding anyone with your efforts to conflate the two.

Medicare recipients earned their health care. The only time their hands were 'out,' is when they were from their youth, plying their trades. Now Medicaid folks? not so much. However young folks on Medicaid are often the victims of their parents. Parents who let them run wild and fail to instill any real sense of personal or moral responsibility within them. Thusly armed with raging though unbridled hormones, themselves yet babies, they proceed to make babies. Millions of them who BTW, are 100% dependent on the taxpayers. The Medicaid safety net in such case does afford opportunity for reflection and a move to a personally responsible lifestyle. Even if their educational degree is to that end, from the school of hard knocks. Still, that happy scenario is far from the norm as the vast majority of Medicaid recipients do so by choice.

You were predictably wrong when you leaped to your reductive and shallow assumption. You alleged I quoted Rhinomey. Never said the full 45% are bums, and please spare me your efforts to revise my own sourcing. What a load of monkey puke. You're intent is to berate the top 1% who generate so much by way of wealth and opportunity in this land. All the while giving an unearned pass to the Nancy Pelosi-esque, welfare dependent aspiring artists. What I said was 45% don't pay income tax. And, what I said is the aged in this land, after a lifetime of laudable efforts in self sufficiency, are forced to pay high income taxes until the day they die. We, with a head scratching level of compassion, want to hand a dignified level of life's needs to those struggling with financial self motivation. While at the same time we ruthlessly continue to slam the aged with high taxation. That continues FTR no matter how hard that may be for them, even for the number of days they may languish in pain on their death beds.