[TheRealThing]

If you weren’t watching how do you know what was said? The piecemeal case that was displayed in the Impeachment inquiry was very different than what was presented over the last three days.

I found it interesting that the President had no opposition to the same aid his prior two years in office, but a week after Biden entered the race the ball started rolling as he sent Giuliani and US diplomats to encourage Ukraine to investigate Russian propaganda.

Then in the summer, after much motivation, Ukraine still seemed to not want to participate Trump made the call on July 25th, or the day after Mueller testified in Congress. Probably realizing since he was safe from the Russia probe, he could now take a pivotal role in leveraging Ukraine.

By August 25th the news of the whistleblower complaint was out, and by Sept. 11th the Trump administration was forced to release the aid or be in violation of the law.

Way too much evidence pointing to Trump’s intentions and involvement to sweep away. I guess my phrasing was wrong; it is corruption even he didn’t succeed.

The obstruction charge comes down to the fact that Trump didn’t do what other presidents under investigation had done. IMO, the House should have subpoenaed the documents and testimony, and If Trump felt it was it was executive privilege he should have done that.

The drip, drip of information outside of the trial is undermining some of the defense of the president. I do wonder when that will spill over into the trial, or if there will be enough to compel House Democrats to start right back over.

Nixon’s wall crumbled in 7 days after the “smoking gun tapes” existence was revealed.

Impeachment is not being used illegally. You may not support it, but thus far everything has followed the Constitution.

Have we ever seen a President’s party open impeachment proceedings?

Liberal revisions? I don’t use liberal sources when I review, so no, not liberal revision.

FWIW, I don’t know how you handle Iran. I’m not interested in a war. JCPOA was meant to eliminate the Nuclear threat. It didn’t last long enough to know if it was successful, or not. We now have nothing, but sanctions on the rogue nation: no inspectors, no leverage, and no diplomacy.

You deal with Iran and any other military threat with the US military. That is unless you're too scared to live free.

But who are you supposedly convincing here with all this baloney? It certainly wouldn't be me, or Seger, or jetpilot, or Hoot Gibson. There are those who formulate their own opinion based on factual observations. And then there are those such as yourself who parrot talking points and get their opinions handed to them. People like you my friend are the Dem's best friend. And I'm not buying for the first second that your sources are not ALL liberal.

The fact is I do listen to the leftist media and the Dems (until an overwhelming urge to throw up starts to wash over) because I want to hear them declare themselves. And may I say that I am never surprised by their outrageous and immoral blather.

The House case might have been a piecemeal compilation of fabrications based on what if's and conspiracies, and lacking in polished transitory linkages. And the Senate presentation may have in fact included a more polished and seamless progression through said fabrication. The whole thing nonetheless runs in direct contravention to the facts of the case.

Soap operas depict characters who dress and live impeccably superficial lifestyles. Thus the greater the offender, the better he would want his appearance to be. In other words if you're going to act like a social Vlad the Impaler, you would want to dress up in the best suits. But even gas station attendant's appearance is always flawless. That was Schiff and Nadler's attempt. Polished as possible, just not the truth. Nobody with an ounce of discretion was fooled by either version of the play. Just as nobody is fooled by your interpretive prowess where the US Constitution is concerned.

The impeachment, like the endless investigations shamelessly and unabashedly called for by Maxine Waters and Al Green, is a farcical vendetta based in lies. And is therefore illegal. But keep your fingers crossed, and earnestly dream on. :Thumbs: