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01-25-2020, 03:51 PM
TheRealThing Wrote:Whereas I am certain that I would be standing on granite resting on bedrock, that you have feasted on the monkey puke with relish.
The impeachment managers have done nothing but repeat the same drivel they dreamed up in the House. Thankfully, the founders were much smarter than today's House majority. They envisioned the possible scenario where the House majority may be tempted to use their power to weaponize the impeachment process for light and/or transient cause; say like not liking his policy decisions such as they have in this day for example. And further in the ultimate irony, have tried to illegally use impeachment to get rid of a political foe. Thus they (the founders) included the necessary language to preclude same in the Constitution.
Your first three paragraphs are great examples of liberal revisionist malarkey.
If you werenât watching how do you know what was said? The piecemeal case that was displayed in the Impeachment inquiry was very different than what was presented over the last three days.
I found it interesting that the President had no opposition to the same aid his prior two years in office, but a week after Biden entered the race the ball started rolling as he sent Giuliani and US diplomats to encourage Ukraine to investigate Russian propaganda.
Then in the summer, after much motivation, Ukraine still seemed to not want to participate Trump made the call on July 25th, or the day after Mueller testified in Congress. Probably realizing since he was safe from the Russia probe, he could now take a pivotal role in leveraging Ukraine.
By August 25th the news of the whistleblower complaint was out, and by Sept. 11th the Trump administration was forced to release the aid or be in violation of the law.
Way too much evidence pointing to Trumpâs intentions and involvement to sweep away. I guess my phrasing was wrong; it is corruption even he didnât succeed.
The obstruction charge comes down to the fact that Trump didnât do what other presidents under investigation had done. IMO, the House should have subpoenaed the documents and testimony, and If Trump felt it was it was executive privilege he should have done that.
The drip, drip of information outside of the trial is undermining some of the defense of the president. I do wonder when that will spill over into the trial, or if there will be enough to compel House Democrats to start right back over.
Nixonâs wall crumbled in 7 days after the âsmoking gun tapesâ existence was revealed.
Impeachment is not being used illegally. You may not support it, but thus far everything has followed the Constitution.
Have we ever seen a Presidentâs party open impeachment proceedings?
Liberal revisions? I donât use liberal sources when I review, so no, not liberal revision.
FWIW, I donât know how you handle Iran. Iâm not interested in a war. JCPOA was meant to eliminate the Nuclear threat. It didnât last long enough to know if it was successful, or not. We now have nothing, but sanctions on the rogue nation: no inspectors, no leverage, and no diplomacy.
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Impeachment - by TheRealThing - 12-19-2019, 04:13 PM
Impeachment - by Spirit100 - 12-19-2019, 05:22 PM
Impeachment - by Cardfan1 - 12-19-2019, 06:12 PM
Impeachment - by TheRealThing - 12-19-2019, 07:15 PM
Impeachment - by TheRealThing - 12-19-2019, 08:03 PM
Impeachment - by Cardfan1 - 12-19-2019, 08:57 PM
Impeachment - by TheRealThing - 12-20-2019, 01:55 AM
Impeachment - by Cardfan1 - 12-20-2019, 03:54 AM
Impeachment - by TheRealThing - 12-20-2019, 03:31 PM
Impeachment - by Cardfan1 - 12-20-2019, 04:24 PM
Impeachment - by TheRealThing - 12-21-2019, 03:23 AM
Impeachment - by Cardfan1 - 12-21-2019, 06:22 PM
Impeachment - by Hoot Gibson - 12-22-2019, 06:06 AM
Impeachment - by Cardfan1 - 12-22-2019, 05:48 PM
Impeachment - by TheRealThing - 12-22-2019, 06:06 PM
Impeachment - by Cardfan1 - 12-22-2019, 07:02 PM
Impeachment - by Hoot Gibson - 12-22-2019, 07:12 PM
Impeachment - by TheRealThing - 12-22-2019, 09:35 PM
Impeachment - by Cardfan1 - 12-22-2019, 11:42 PM
Impeachment - by Hoot Gibson - 12-23-2019, 12:44 AM
Impeachment - by Cardfan1 - 12-23-2019, 01:26 AM
Impeachment - by TheRealThing - 12-23-2019, 01:28 AM
Impeachment - by TheRealThing - 12-23-2019, 01:35 AM
Impeachment - by Cardfan1 - 12-23-2019, 02:40 AM
Impeachment - by TheRealThing - 12-23-2019, 03:19 AM
Impeachment - by TheRealThing - 12-24-2019, 01:59 AM
Impeachment - by Cardfan1 - 12-24-2019, 06:28 PM
Impeachment - by TheRealThing - 12-25-2019, 06:37 PM
Impeachment - by Cardfan1 - 12-26-2019, 05:47 PM
Impeachment - by TheRealThing - 12-27-2019, 04:58 PM
Impeachment - by TheRealThing - 12-27-2019, 06:25 PM
Impeachment - by Cardfan1 - 12-27-2019, 06:34 PM
Impeachment - by Cardfan1 - 12-27-2019, 07:26 PM
Impeachment - by Hoot Gibson - 12-28-2019, 12:12 AM
Impeachment - by Hoot Gibson - 12-28-2019, 12:16 AM
Impeachment - by TheRealThing - 12-28-2019, 01:03 AM
Impeachment - by Cardfan1 - 12-28-2019, 04:04 AM
Impeachment - by Cardfan1 - 12-28-2019, 04:17 AM
Impeachment - by Hoot Gibson - 12-28-2019, 05:21 AM
Impeachment - by Hoot Gibson - 12-28-2019, 05:24 AM
Impeachment - by Cardfan1 - 12-28-2019, 05:07 PM
Impeachment - by TheRealThing - 12-28-2019, 05:07 PM
Impeachment - by TheRealThing - 12-28-2019, 05:10 PM
Impeachment - by Cardfan1 - 12-28-2019, 05:18 PM
Impeachment - by Cardfan1 - 12-28-2019, 05:30 PM
Impeachment - by TheRealThing - 12-29-2019, 03:27 AM
Impeachment - by TheRealThing - 12-29-2019, 03:45 AM
Impeachment - by TheRealThing - 12-29-2019, 06:52 PM
Impeachment - by Cardfan1 - 12-29-2019, 10:18 PM
Impeachment - by Cardfan1 - 12-29-2019, 10:34 PM
Impeachment - by TheRealThing - 12-30-2019, 01:05 AM
Impeachment - by TheRealThing - 12-30-2019, 01:28 AM
Impeachment - by Cardfan1 - 12-30-2019, 04:43 AM
Impeachment - by Cardfan1 - 12-30-2019, 05:20 AM
Impeachment - by TheRealThing - 12-30-2019, 06:29 PM
Impeachment - by TheRealThing - 12-30-2019, 06:49 PM
Impeachment - by Cardfan1 - 12-30-2019, 09:32 PM
Impeachment - by TheRealThing - 12-31-2019, 01:22 AM
Impeachment - by Cardfan1 - 12-31-2019, 03:25 AM
Impeachment - by TheRealThing - 12-31-2019, 04:02 PM
Impeachment - by Cardfan1 - 12-31-2019, 05:48 PM
Impeachment - by TheRealThing - 12-31-2019, 08:40 PM
Impeachment - by Cardfan1 - 01-01-2020, 10:04 AM
Impeachment - by TheRealThing - 01-02-2020, 02:57 PM
Impeachment - by Cardfan1 - 01-02-2020, 06:24 PM
Impeachment - by TheRealThing - 01-02-2020, 07:22 PM
Impeachment - by Cardfan1 - 01-02-2020, 09:06 PM
Impeachment - by TheRealThing - 01-03-2020, 04:15 PM
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Impeachment - by TheRealThing - 01-04-2020, 09:04 PM
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Impeachment - by TheRealThing - 01-05-2020, 02:16 AM
Impeachment - by Cardfan1 - 01-05-2020, 03:29 PM
Impeachment - by TheRealThing - 01-05-2020, 03:47 PM
Impeachment - by jetpilot - 01-06-2020, 05:24 AM
Impeachment - by Cardfan1 - 01-06-2020, 09:02 PM
Impeachment - by TheRealThing - 01-07-2020, 02:23 AM
Impeachment - by Cardfan1 - 01-07-2020, 03:24 PM
Impeachment - by TheRealThing - 01-07-2020, 06:55 PM
Impeachment - by TheRealThing - 01-07-2020, 07:31 PM
Impeachment - by Cardfan1 - 01-07-2020, 08:25 PM
Impeachment - by TheRealThing - 01-07-2020, 09:17 PM
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Impeachment - by TheRealThing - 01-08-2020, 04:51 PM
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Impeachment - by Cardfan1 - 01-12-2020, 09:47 AM
Impeachment - by TheRealThing - 01-12-2020, 05:35 PM
Impeachment - by jetpilot - 01-13-2020, 04:43 PM
Impeachment - by Spirit100 - 01-13-2020, 09:32 PM
Impeachment - by Bob Seger - 01-14-2020, 07:32 PM
Impeachment - by Cardfan1 - 01-16-2020, 03:09 PM
Impeachment - by Cardfan1 - 01-16-2020, 03:47 PM
Impeachment - by Cardfan1 - 01-22-2020, 06:49 AM
Impeachment - by TheRealThing - 01-24-2020, 10:24 PM
Impeachment - by Cardfan1 - 01-25-2020, 01:34 AM
Impeachment - by jetpilot - 01-25-2020, 04:04 AM
Impeachment - by TheRealThing - 01-25-2020, 04:21 AM
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Impeachment - by Bob Seger - 01-25-2020, 06:15 AM
Impeachment - by Cardfan1 - 01-25-2020, 03:51 PM
Impeachment - by Cardfan1 - 01-25-2020, 03:59 PM
Impeachment - by TheRealThing - 01-25-2020, 05:25 PM
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Impeachment - by TheRealThing - 01-25-2020, 07:15 PM
Impeachment - by Hoot Gibson - 01-25-2020, 07:57 PM
Impeachment - by Hoot Gibson - 01-25-2020, 08:07 PM
Impeachment - by TheRealThing - 01-25-2020, 09:42 PM
Impeachment - by Hoot Gibson - 01-25-2020, 10:13 PM
Impeachment - by TheRealThing - 01-25-2020, 11:27 PM
Impeachment - by Spirit100 - 01-26-2020, 05:17 PM
Impeachment - by TheRealThing - 01-26-2020, 07:59 PM
Impeachment - by Cardfan1 - 01-27-2020, 05:12 PM
Impeachment - by TheRealThing - 01-27-2020, 06:47 PM
Impeachment - by Cardfan1 - 01-27-2020, 08:15 PM
Impeachment - by TheRealThing - 01-27-2020, 11:54 PM
Impeachment - by Cardfan1 - 01-28-2020, 05:24 PM
Impeachment - by TheRealThing - 01-28-2020, 08:38 PM
Impeachment - by Cardfan1 - 01-28-2020, 11:25 PM
Impeachment - by TheRealThing - 01-29-2020, 12:28 AM
Impeachment - by Cardfan1 - 01-29-2020, 01:57 AM
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Impeachment - by TheRealThing - 01-30-2020, 09:00 PM
Impeachment - by Cardfan1 - 01-31-2020, 02:53 AM
Impeachment - by Hoot Gibson - 01-31-2020, 03:01 AM
Impeachment - by Hoot Gibson - 01-31-2020, 03:14 AM
Impeachment - by TheRealThing - 01-31-2020, 04:51 AM
Impeachment - by Cardfan1 - 01-31-2020, 03:21 PM
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Impeachment - by TheRealThing - 01-31-2020, 04:28 PM
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Impeachment - by Cardfan1 - 02-01-2020, 05:07 AM
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Impeachment - by TheRealThing - 02-01-2020, 05:24 AM
Impeachment - by Cardfan1 - 02-01-2020, 05:29 AM
Impeachment - by TheRealThing - 02-01-2020, 03:58 PM
Impeachment - by Hoot Gibson - 02-01-2020, 05:07 PM
Impeachment - by Bob Seger - 02-01-2020, 05:23 PM
Impeachment - by Bob Seger - 02-01-2020, 05:27 PM
Impeachment - by Bob Seger - 02-01-2020, 05:30 PM
Impeachment - by Hoot Gibson - 02-01-2020, 05:39 PM
Impeachment - by jetpilot - 02-01-2020, 06:36 PM
Impeachment - by jetpilot - 02-01-2020, 06:41 PM
Impeachment - by Cardfan1 - 02-01-2020, 11:31 PM
Impeachment - by Cardfan1 - 02-01-2020, 11:33 PM
Impeachment - by TheRealThing - 02-01-2020, 11:53 PM
Impeachment - by Cardfan1 - 02-02-2020, 12:07 AM
Impeachment - by Cardfan1 - 02-02-2020, 12:10 AM
Impeachment - by Cardfan1 - 02-02-2020, 12:12 AM
Impeachment - by Cardfan1 - 02-02-2020, 12:14 AM
Impeachment - by Hoot Gibson - 02-02-2020, 12:14 AM
Impeachment - by Cardfan1 - 02-02-2020, 12:15 AM
Impeachment - by Hoot Gibson - 02-02-2020, 12:24 AM
Impeachment - by TheRealThing - 02-02-2020, 02:29 AM
Impeachment - by Bob Seger - 02-02-2020, 04:33 AM
Impeachment - by jetpilot - 02-02-2020, 08:01 AM
Impeachment - by Hoot Gibson - 02-02-2020, 02:21 PM
Impeachment - by Bob Seger - 02-02-2020, 02:22 PM
Impeachment - by TheRealThing - 02-02-2020, 03:47 PM
Impeachment - by jetpilot - 02-03-2020, 04:33 AM
Impeachment - by Bob Seger - 02-03-2020, 09:12 AM
Impeachment - by Cardfan1 - 02-03-2020, 03:24 PM
Impeachment - by Cardfan1 - 02-03-2020, 03:31 PM
Impeachment - by Bob Seger - 02-03-2020, 04:33 PM
Impeachment - by TheRealThing - 02-03-2020, 07:25 PM
Impeachment - by Cardfan1 - 02-03-2020, 08:20 PM
Impeachment - by Bob Seger - 02-04-2020, 06:20 PM
Impeachment - by Cardfan1 - 02-04-2020, 07:54 PM
Impeachment - by TheRealThing - 02-05-2020, 04:48 PM
Impeachment - by Cardfan1 - 02-05-2020, 06:01 PM
Impeachment - by jetpilot - 02-06-2020, 06:20 AM
Impeachment - by Cardfan1 - 02-06-2020, 02:52 PM
Impeachment - by Hoot Gibson - 02-06-2020, 11:57 PM
Impeachment - by Cardfan1 - 02-07-2020, 01:30 AM
Impeachment - by Hoot Gibson - 02-07-2020, 03:05 AM
Impeachment - by TheRealThing - 02-07-2020, 03:54 AM
Impeachment - by TheRealThing - 02-07-2020, 03:55 AM
Impeachment - by Cardfan1 - 02-07-2020, 02:56 PM
Impeachment - by Cardfan1 - 02-07-2020, 04:22 PM
Impeachment - by TheRealThing - 02-07-2020, 04:38 PM
Impeachment - by Cardfan1 - 02-07-2020, 05:08 PM
Impeachment - by TheRealThing - 02-07-2020, 05:35 PM
Impeachment - by Spirit100 - 02-08-2020, 04:49 PM
Impeachment - by Hoot Gibson - 02-08-2020, 07:25 PM
Impeachment - by Cardfan1 - 02-10-2020, 03:16 PM
Impeachment - by Hoot Gibson - 02-10-2020, 06:43 PM
Impeachment - by Cardfan1 - 02-10-2020, 08:55 PM
Impeachment - by Cardfan1 - 02-10-2020, 10:47 PM
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Impeachment - by Hoot Gibson - 02-11-2020, 03:56 AM
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Impeachment - by TheRealThing - 02-11-2020, 05:52 PM
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Impeachment - by TheRealThing - 02-12-2020, 01:24 AM
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