[TheRealThing]

The phone call isn't the only issue in this scandal. Minimizing the complaints to that is disingenuous.

I have read the transcripts. The "get with Mr. Giuliani" part is what concerns me. Giuliani is not a govt. employee and is conducting foreign policy exercises for the administration. His involvement gives an appearance of a backchannel, under-the-table deal. Maybe that isn't the case, but other evidence besides the phone call suggests otherwise. As I have said throughout the thread, the democrat case is circumstantial and is based on a good degree of speculation. The only way we will really know if the President was attempting to slander a political rival with the aid of foreign govt. by withholding assistance is to question the folks involved--Bolton, Mulvany, Pompeo. I would include Giuliani, but being the President's lawyer gives him some protection, which is intentional I'm sure.

The Biden scandal is concerning to me. He is the frontrunner on the democratic ticket and could be POTUS. If VP Biden participated in the corruption in the Ukraine, he shouldn't receive the nomination. As far as Hunter Biden is concerned, I could care less what he has done in Ukraine.

My "intellectual mind" can compartmentalize the two situations. President Trump is the one that is bound by the Constitution and the laws of this land at this time and on this thread.

The faith in the intelligence community changes with the wind these days.

What "wowed the world"?

I see. Did you read the Starr Report as well by chance? Do you remember Sidney Stone Blumenthal at all? Was he a government employee and did he conduct any business for Bill and Hill across what spanned decades worth of administrations? :please: