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I will readily grant your point that public opinion is unfortunately, waaay more slanted against the President than I feel is warranted. My point exactly though, was that Dems from the get-go, have knocked themselves out to smear the President in order to either remove him outright, or diminish his administration to the point of being of no effect. That's why I asked you to name one thing that you know he's actually, provably done wrong. Much less said. I say you or nobody else can do that because all the incoming has been a bunch of made up slander inflamed by and delivered by a more than willing press corps.

The President's self confessed past character flaws, and the fact that he is not guilty of treason and bribery and collusion and racial bias and the myriad of other charges leveled by Dems, can both be true and exist at the same time. In a court room the prosecutor slams and defames everyone prone to provide exculpatory testimony. And it's no holds barred where the defendant is concerned. What I am saying is given the time and effort invested to tear down this President's reputation over the past 4 years, it's no surprise to me that Dems have managed to convince people the President should be removed from office. The reason of course, is to ruin him and the hated Republicans. The method is smear politics, and is straight out of the DNC playbook, and is certainly nothing new. In 2012 Harry Reid got up on the floor of the Senate and said that then candidate for President Mitt Romney hadn't paid any income taxes in 10 years. He later laughed about the lie in a moment of candor.

The sacred cow in all of this, The Whistle Blower :yikes: is reportedly an intel employee. Which of course disqualifies him from said status. And there is a cavalcade of dead bodies strewn over the political landscape of late. Comey, Strzok, McCabe, Clapper, Brennan, whose dealings the AG is determined to unearth. Things will continue to come to light.

The Constitution grants the President authority in matters of national security and foreign policy. He has the right and the power to withhold aid if he smells a rat. Further in the present matter, the President said do "us" a favor. "US" as in the United States. Not us as suggested by the prof who said Trump refers to himself as 'us,' in the manner of English monarchs. I mean that whole line is ridiculous. We're suddenly these days tore all to pieces over delayed military aid. But we were peepless when Putin was steamrolling Crimea and Obama gave a flat no to military aid all together. But added--- "I'll send you all some fuzzy blankets and such." :please:

There are no fact witnesses. There is a transcript, there are deepstaters, there are political detractors. That's not evidence. What that is is, is running over evidence, to get to the hearsay and innuendo.


ABTW, I'm in no way excusing Republicans for impeaching Clinton. But I do believe they have learned the hard way, that impeaching a President is to be done only as a last resort. Trump is no more a threat to this land than was Clinton. And his contribution to history may well prove to eclipse that of MR Clinton.

Easy let’s not put a halo on the man. You’re going to tarnish his image of the dude who “takes it to the libs.”

There is way too much clutching of pearls from both sides. And both sides spew vitriol, and it’s their leaders who spur that on.

I’m ashamed of both Presidents in their handling of Ukraine. What an opportunity for our nation to head off Russian expansion: One turned a blind eye while the other tried to extort. Both shameful.

What is the purpose of talking to the whistleblower now? Most of the people on the call have now corroborated the report. It seems to me that people just want this person outed, so they can punish them, which is why they have this whistleblower protection.

Maybe we will get fact witnesses in the Senate trial. I am sure
Mulvany, Bolton, Pompeo, and Giuliani could clear all this up.