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08-10-2019, 10:23 AM
TheRealThing Wrote:You and I are just not going to ever agree on one thing. And that is how much blame one could reasonably ascribe to Trump for the state of affairs in this nation as of Nov 8, 2016. And generally how far gone we already were. You've read my posts you know I've been warning about the moral degradation in the general sense since I came on here. I think he's done a reasonably good job considering the undeniable resistance with which he's been met by every last Democrat in government, along with the RINO wing of the Republican Conference, along with the deepstate, and along with the so-called free press.As amended, I agree 100 percent with what you said above. It is ludicrous to accuse President Trump of being a bigot and/or a racist while ignoring the actual bigots and racists among liberal Democrats in this nation. There are actually very few white supremacists in this country while the Democrat Party is full of members who absolutely and openly hate white people and Jews because of the color of their skin, their political positions, and their religious beliefs.
My challenge was meant to be very specifically and narrowly defined. I blew that I suppose, when I included the sentence about one lie because people who do not like the President could say about everything he has said is a lie. The President has somewhat of a language problem, and I do agree that he often does not completely finish sentences, much less develop fully his train of thought. A LOT of people refer to such lapses as lies. And there have been other situations in which he has not yet come through with his promises. We do have a US Congress involved here to some degree too, correct? Though I did leave myself open for a certain criticism for having stated that line about the lie, I do not subscribe to that analysis . Restating my challenge more pointedly;
"But allow me to extend to any and all, the opportunity to post here on this forum so much as one lie that they know the President has spoken.
Prove to us all with so much as ONE statement or quote the President has made, that he is either a racist or a white supremacist."
The attacks being waged on President Trump are not based on whether he has lied. The attacks on him are the false charges of racism and white supremacist tendencies. They're trying to make another Hitler out of him. And they're trying to win the next election with that attack, you know this. You also know many minority groups have largely bought into these false charges and I believe you ought not to hold your peace on the matter because you know better. As I have said, I doubt there are many men who've been interviewed more, quoted more, or video and audio taped more. TV, radio, magazines, news papers, you name it. Almost everything the man has ever written or stated or mused about is on record SOMEPLACE, and with the legions of rabid chipmunks out there spending all of their time and millions of tax dollars that you and I will most likely never officially hear about, looking and sifting through all of that and turning over rocks if necessary, in the effort to find one little teensy example of racism or white supremacism; you can bet if there were one example, they'd have uncovered it by now and shouted it to the moon. Thus I know one thing, there are zero examples of his having made such a death deserving politically correct trespass on record.
As for the potential assault on the second amendment. All anyone would have to do under Trump's plan "as spoken," would be to have any doctor anywhere I suppose, to declare an individual mentally deficient. 'The man' would then be send to take his guns. If that's the case I would expect that when Democrats retake the White House, any and all deplorables who happen to hit the liberal radar screen for any reason whatever, may well find the man coming to their home to confiscate their guns. Any health reason could be deemed disqualifying, as could anybody say- younger than 21 or older that 65, or fill in the blanks because once that door is cracked there is absolutely no limit or going back. I agree, they'd turn the second amendment into a joke.
I applaud Trump for sharply demonstrating the fact that racist and political extremism is concentrated among the members of the Democrat Party. He deserves the lions' share of credit for the sharp decline in the credibility of CNN, NBC, the New York Times, the Washington Post, and many other formerly respected left wing media outlets.
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The "Tolerant" Liberal - by Ballmom1 - 05-31-2017, 02:14 PM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by The Urban Sombrero - 05-31-2017, 09:40 PM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by Granny Bear - 06-01-2017, 12:43 PM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by TheRealThing - 06-01-2017, 03:53 PM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by The Urban Sombrero - 06-01-2017, 08:57 PM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by Ballmom1 - 06-01-2017, 09:29 PM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by The Urban Sombrero - 06-01-2017, 11:13 PM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by TheRealThing - 06-02-2017, 02:32 AM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by TheRealThing - 06-02-2017, 02:35 AM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by The Urban Sombrero - 06-02-2017, 04:15 AM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by TheRealThing - 06-02-2017, 05:13 AM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by ekyswvahsfan - 06-02-2017, 05:27 AM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by The Urban Sombrero - 06-02-2017, 05:47 AM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by Granny Bear - 06-02-2017, 12:35 PM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by TheRealThing - 06-02-2017, 01:56 PM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by vector - 06-02-2017, 04:22 PM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by TheRealThing - 06-02-2017, 04:46 PM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by Granny Bear - 06-02-2017, 04:49 PM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by Granny Bear - 06-02-2017, 04:52 PM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by TheRealThing - 06-02-2017, 06:33 PM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by diceman - 06-03-2017, 12:37 AM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by The Urban Sombrero - 06-03-2017, 11:00 PM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by The Urban Sombrero - 06-03-2017, 11:07 PM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by The Urban Sombrero - 06-03-2017, 11:08 PM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by TheRealThing - 06-04-2017, 02:19 AM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by Bob Seger - 06-04-2017, 04:53 AM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by The Urban Sombrero - 06-04-2017, 06:43 AM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by TheRealThing - 06-04-2017, 02:15 PM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by diceman - 06-04-2017, 03:42 PM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by The Urban Sombrero - 06-04-2017, 04:13 PM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by TheRealThing - 06-04-2017, 06:25 PM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by The Urban Sombrero - 06-04-2017, 06:45 PM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by TheRealThing - 06-04-2017, 07:47 PM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by The Urban Sombrero - 06-04-2017, 08:03 PM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by Granny Bear - 06-04-2017, 09:46 PM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by TheRealThing - 06-04-2017, 11:01 PM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by diceman - 06-04-2017, 11:28 PM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by The Urban Sombrero - 06-05-2017, 02:42 AM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by diceman - 06-05-2017, 02:47 AM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by The Urban Sombrero - 06-05-2017, 03:44 AM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by RunItUpTheGut - 06-05-2017, 07:07 AM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by Bob Seger - 06-05-2017, 09:36 AM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by Granny Bear - 06-05-2017, 02:20 PM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by Granny Bear - 06-05-2017, 02:23 PM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by Bob Seger - 06-05-2017, 03:30 PM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by Ballmom1 - 06-05-2017, 03:55 PM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by diceman - 06-05-2017, 04:30 PM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by TheRealThing - 06-05-2017, 04:36 PM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by The Urban Sombrero - 06-05-2017, 06:20 PM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by TheRealThing - 06-05-2017, 09:46 PM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by TheRealThing - 06-05-2017, 09:54 PM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by The Urban Sombrero - 06-05-2017, 10:27 PM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by Bob Seger - 06-05-2017, 10:31 PM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by The Urban Sombrero - 06-05-2017, 10:33 PM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by The Urban Sombrero - 06-05-2017, 10:36 PM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by The Urban Sombrero - 06-05-2017, 10:50 PM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by TheRealThing - 06-05-2017, 11:27 PM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by Granny Bear - 06-05-2017, 11:37 PM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by The Urban Sombrero - 06-05-2017, 11:41 PM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by The Urban Sombrero - 06-05-2017, 11:43 PM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by TheRealThing - 06-06-2017, 12:37 AM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by Granny Bear - 06-06-2017, 12:47 AM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by The Urban Sombrero - 06-06-2017, 12:51 AM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by The Urban Sombrero - 06-06-2017, 12:53 AM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by Granny Bear - 06-06-2017, 01:21 AM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by Bob Seger - 06-06-2017, 02:43 AM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by The Urban Sombrero - 06-06-2017, 03:29 AM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by The Urban Sombrero - 06-06-2017, 03:33 AM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by TheRealThing - 06-06-2017, 04:36 AM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by The Urban Sombrero - 06-06-2017, 04:42 AM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by TheRealThing - 06-06-2017, 04:45 AM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by Bob Seger - 06-06-2017, 05:05 AM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by Bob Seger - 06-06-2017, 05:08 AM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by The Urban Sombrero - 06-06-2017, 05:09 AM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by TheRealThing - 06-06-2017, 06:38 AM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by The Urban Sombrero - 06-06-2017, 06:56 AM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by TheRealThing - 06-06-2017, 07:02 AM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by The Urban Sombrero - 06-06-2017, 07:13 AM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by Granny Bear - 06-06-2017, 02:24 PM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by The Urban Sombrero - 06-06-2017, 05:17 PM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by Granny Bear - 06-06-2017, 06:02 PM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by The Urban Sombrero - 06-06-2017, 06:09 PM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by TheRealThing - 06-07-2017, 01:53 AM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by diceman - 06-07-2017, 02:02 AM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by TheRealThing - 06-07-2017, 03:15 AM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by The Urban Sombrero - 06-07-2017, 04:10 AM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by TheRealThing - 06-07-2017, 04:51 AM
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The "Tolerant" Liberal - by TheRealThing - 06-07-2017, 01:39 PM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by The Urban Sombrero - 06-07-2017, 07:50 PM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by Ballmom1 - 06-07-2017, 11:31 PM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by TheRealThing - 06-08-2017, 01:15 AM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by The Urban Sombrero - 06-08-2017, 01:33 AM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by TheRealThing - 06-08-2017, 02:41 AM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by The Urban Sombrero - 06-08-2017, 02:57 AM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by TheRealThing - 06-08-2017, 03:32 AM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by The Urban Sombrero - 06-08-2017, 03:58 AM
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The "Tolerant" Liberal - by TheRealThing - 06-09-2017, 05:19 AM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by The Urban Sombrero - 06-09-2017, 05:28 AM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by TheRealThing - 06-09-2017, 06:01 AM
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The "Tolerant" Liberal - by The Urban Sombrero - 06-09-2017, 11:41 PM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by TheRealThing - 06-10-2017, 01:33 AM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by The Urban Sombrero - 06-11-2017, 07:27 AM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by Granny Bear - 06-11-2017, 01:01 PM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by vector - 06-11-2017, 01:05 PM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by Granny Bear - 06-11-2017, 02:08 PM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by TheRealThing - 06-11-2017, 02:39 PM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by The Urban Sombrero - 06-11-2017, 05:55 PM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by TheRealThing - 06-11-2017, 07:06 PM
The "Tolerant" Liberal - by vector - 06-11-2017, 09:04 PM
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