[TheRealThing]

Well I wanted to make sure I had it correct, that it was the urban outdoorspeople and not a different topic. They don't go to their welfare office because maybe they feel bad like they're taking advantage of people by doing it.

Oh, okay. So what we have here is selective humility then huh? They feel bad about going to the welfare office. But stepping up to the free phone tent and standing on street corners asking people for money are noble pursuits. And of course they have an advocacy of clear thinkers such as yourself, who continually demand that the government give them more free goodies. And in turn, tax exponentially more money from the same middle class that you have identified as victims of government in the first place. That about right? Sparkling logic.

All of which conveniently looks over the obvious fact that devoid of work, they get ALL their needs met by 'taking advantage' of the charity of others after all. Sci-Fi; debate team first place :1:

You won't out-debate us.