[TheRealThing]

I usually agree with you 98% of the time, but you are way low here. Way more than 20% are brainwashed and a bunch on top of that are more aware of what the Kardashians are doing on TV or any number of other idiot things in the entertainment industry than what is happening to our country.
We live in a country of idiots, that's how Washington DC can be so corrupt and incompetent. :flush:

No problem.

Yeah the dynamic of what constitutes the liberal culture is a convoluted mess. Most of them I believe, merely float in a loose orbit of apathy, and don't care if it snows straight up as long as they keep getting their monthly goodies. But it's more than that. People these days have been encouraged, even enabled and justified to harbor resentment and ill will against anybody of relative means. So that those on the dole get a genuine kick out of fleecing the conservative side of society. Thus have the liberals in government established themselves as the proud sponsors of people who are for lack of a better way to describe it, unmotivated. The left harbor a scary, possibly existential level of contempt for the traditionally conservative America that I know and love.

I mean, almost anything has become acceptable. Hollywood types are going rabid because some in this land would defend the unborn. We are under withering attack at the foundational level as TV programming and commercials are rife with propaganda. The intent of which is to encourage any depraved personal pursuit imaginable. Have you seen "the pill" commercial? On radio I hear a "Kars for Kids" jingle every day. The idea here is to get you and I to donate more for the unfortunate children of our society, which are the abused outcasts born of what has become acceptable rampant sexual promiscuity. We don't even try to correct the matter the right way, by forcing society's froward sexual vampires to support their progeny. We just accept all that and sing about donating your cars for the support of kids. I got news for them, money can't solve what ails this country. When we run out of money, and we will, this society will implode IMHO.

Such as described above is the liberal view point. But I believe that the percentage of true-believer, educated diehard liberals are in the 20's something percent range; the balance of the left's coalition are those who've glommed on to the Democrat brand for the sake of favors. The live for today crowd, illegal immigrants all kinds of weird special interests groups, global alarmists, the racially unrested, along with the outlier of organized labor (and many others) which make up the Democrat base, do in fact number much more than 20 percent. It's a formidable base and all of them WANT something from government. Which of course means that people who work will have to pay for it all. :notbad: