[TheRealThing]

Holding elected officials accountable is what has preserved our system of government for more than two centuries. I am truly sorry that you and JP take any criticism of President Trump so personally. The prospect of Democrats seizing control of the entire federal government in two years has me very worried but pretending that Trump's efforts to secure the border have been rational will not improve Republican chances in 2020.

Put yourself in the shoes of the 800,000 federal employees who scrambled to pay bills during the recent shutdown, a number that does not include federal contractors who were idled. How do you think those among them who support a border wall are feeling - knowing that the shutdown had no chance of success? I would feel betrayed.

It's okay for a leader to ask for sacrifices from his supporters, but only if there is a reasonable chance that those sacrifices help achieve a shared goal. Trump is behaving in a way that will depress Republican turnout in 2020 and Republicans have no viable alternative to offer voters.

Oh I wouldn't obsess about it Hoot. I have come to realize the pragmatic view is a gift not visited upon most people, and therefore any limitations with which you may be encumbered are completely excusable. But somehow in the interest of preserving our country past the two century mark, I come up rather empty when trying to think of an example where any Dem or deepstater of late, has been held to account on the first darn thing.