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11-23-2018, 07:26 AM
TheRealThing Wrote:You did a fly-by on the tower, but in this case there was in fact, somebody up there. But I can appreciate your willingness to call out the 9th circus and I agree, Roberts probably agrees with Trump on that. Where you left me in the dust was in saying Trump should lay down and take a public scolding from a Justice of the SC. I mean, the writhings and machinations of 'the resistance' aside for the moment, MR Trump is the President, right? The President didn't say one word about the Supreme Court. Trump has done nothing but restore the credibility of the court. If you ask me he has held up the honor of the court, all the way down to the lowliest, one-horse-town, one bullet toting Barney Fife out there. IF Roberts wants to make a public statement as far as I'm concerned; He might want to lavish a little praise on THE President whom just put his own head in a potential noose in doing his dead level best to put down an organized rebellion aimed at denying the integrity of the Supreme Court and the process by which Justices have been appointed since John Jay in 1791.No, I never said that Trump should "lay down and take a public scolding." There should have been no public exchange at all and there would have been none had Trump not publicly called out the 9th Circuit Court in a very non-presidential manner. As the top official in the federal court system, Chief Justice Roberts defended the system, just as Trump or any president should defend his own cabinet members when they are attacked by members of Congress. President Trump placed Chief Justice Roberts in the position of defending the courts that he must deal with on a daily basis. Roberts was not wrong in defending his extended team.
But none of this is about Trump supporters versus Hillary or Obama or whomever supporters. And you cannot boil it down to rudimentary politics as usual. As I said and you drove sideways around, this is about the US citizenry biting the hand that feeds them, so to speak. But all the talking heads and political analysts and political hacks who've managed to somehow ignore world chaos and war's unmistakable encroachment, continue to think they'll be able to go on cashing checks drawn on a state of abject moral bankruptcy, which of course is today's America.
The things which are right in the sight of God ought not be politicized as the media and the political establishment insist on doing presently. But they are. Put another way, labeling or in this case 'relabeling,' the tenets of morally correct behavior as being attributable only to "core Trump supporters," is wildly disingenuous at best. Just doing a default roll-eye, and mocking the long accepted characteristics of traditional conservatism as somehow now symptomatic of being a Trump supporter is ridiculous.
How could any rational person not see and understand the true nature of the threat posed by open borders? As I have in times past mentioned, America began to lose her right of self governance when she turned her back on God and His Word. God granted inalienable rights were the basis and authority on which the founders informed King George, via the document known as the US Declaration of Independence, our intentions to become a free people. Past that all of our laws were predicated on our understanding of God's law, as was/is the measure of punishment meted out for breaking that law.
Now thanks to the fact that the authority to govern has been, or largely is forfeit, men in black robes have bought into the notion that arbiters of the law have the right or privilege to derive their authority from any late breaking clever legal arguments which happen to support their personal and political leanings. The only safeguard we have left is precedent, as far as I am aware. But just relying only on precedent is no particular preservative of the law, because the continual attack on same for the sake of a big payday, cause it to be ever in a state of flux. Jet has it just right, absent a weatherman, men of reasonable common sense still know which way the wind blows. This one is coming across the stockyards.
Trump needs to focus his efforts on reshaping the federal courts by making the best appointments to fill openings as possible. He does not need to make more enemies with his infantile tweets.
As for immigration policy, Trump's failure to secure full funding for a border wall during his first term has placed him in an almost impossible position now that Republicans have lost control of the House. Now, Trump needs to rely on the federal court system to support his executive actions to deal with the illegal invasion of the U.S. by our neighbors from the south. Insulting judges and engaging in public fights with the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court is not presidential and it is a political blunder.
Trump needs to kick his Twitter addiction or we will all suffer the consequences in 2020. He also needs to learn how to use surrogates to attack his political enemies, instead of personally responding every time some low level Democrat baits him with an insult. When a president responds personally to an insult by the media or a politician, he elevates the status of his critic.
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Chief Justice John Roberts - by TheRealThing - 11-22-2018, 06:26 PM
Chief Justice John Roberts - by Hoot Gibson - 11-22-2018, 09:06 PM
Chief Justice John Roberts - by jetpilot - 11-22-2018, 10:12 PM
Chief Justice John Roberts - by Hoot Gibson - 11-23-2018, 12:48 AM
Chief Justice John Roberts - by TheRealThing - 11-23-2018, 01:53 AM
Chief Justice John Roberts - by TheRealThing - 11-23-2018, 02:50 AM
Chief Justice John Roberts - by Hoot Gibson - 11-23-2018, 07:26 AM
Chief Justice John Roberts - by Hoot Gibson - 11-23-2018, 08:00 AM
Chief Justice John Roberts - by TheRealThing - 11-23-2018, 10:13 AM
Chief Justice John Roberts - by Hoot Gibson - 11-23-2018, 11:55 AM
Chief Justice John Roberts - by jetpilot - 11-23-2018, 06:08 PM
Chief Justice John Roberts - by Hoot Gibson - 11-23-2018, 07:36 PM
Chief Justice John Roberts - by TheRealThing - 11-23-2018, 09:30 PM
Chief Justice John Roberts - by Hoot Gibson - 11-23-2018, 09:50 PM
Chief Justice John Roberts - by TheRealThing - 11-23-2018, 10:51 PM
Chief Justice John Roberts - by Hoot Gibson - 11-23-2018, 11:10 PM
Chief Justice John Roberts - by TheRealThing - 11-24-2018, 12:24 AM
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