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Both are great quotes, but as far as I have been able to find, neither Franklin nor de Toqueville actually said either. The quotes have been attributed to Franklin and de Toqueville so many times that the truth will probably never be known. Unfortunately, given the bias of Google, the anti-American socialists may be effectively hiding corroborating documentation from me.

My favorite variation of this theme, which is well documented, was uttered by Margaret Thatcher, "The trouble with Socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." We are living under the boot of socialism and our government has run out of other people's money. Sometime in the not too distant future, other people around the world will start refusing to loan the U.S. money to squander.

I wish they would hurry! But even then our own idiots will just print more.