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04-25-2018, 07:25 PM
TheRealThing Wrote:I went to the KEA Website and saw their admonition to this state's teachers. Telling them to contact their state representatives to demand teachers receive Social Security benefits. They danced around quite a lot without actually admitting that the deductions Kentucky teachers pay all go to the Kentucky Retirement Fund, and not this nation's Social Security fund. And yet though teachers have not paid into the Social Security fund, you want to draw from it anyway, right?
Thus sound financial logic notwithstanding teachers are mounting an offensive, the end aim of which would be one of two possibilities. The first one would be to go all-in on demanding inclusion as SS recipients. The second would be a straight-up taxpayer bail-out. Either way it amounts to identity theft as the bill goes to the same place, unwitting taxpayers. Who BTW have a world of grief to bear which is every bit the burden that teachers have. Your retirement, was entrusted for safe keeping to Kentucky legislators. The very same whom once filled your heads with rainbows and unicorns, and talk of a retirement utopia where Democrats would always rule. A yarn you believed completely BTW. And here's where your statistics and sound accounting practices prove they are not confluent. The truth has now come out, and even though you've all been blown up about how you're national heroes, your pension funds are not there. Therefore in a series of steps to save your retirements, Gov Bevin has done a couple of things no other Governor has had the courage to do. Tell you about it, and do something about it.
Most teachers I know including me have already worked the consecutive quarters for S.S. Also, not including our spouses, who by the way we (teachers) are not allowed to receive the full benefit even though others are allowed to receive it. So to answer your first question, no.
Gov. Bevin has put a court order on the actuary analyis of the new plan. Did you know that, did you know there is not analysis done on HB 151. I wonder why? Again, TRS people have known about this for years. Hence, the idea of the casino bill as an example of a solution that was from the past. So to your point two, believe what you will.
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Pension Reform - by RunItUpTheGut - 03-31-2018, 07:39 AM
Pension Reform - by Hoot Gibson - 03-31-2018, 12:28 PM
Pension Reform - by TheRealThing - 03-31-2018, 05:21 PM
Pension Reform - by Granny Bear - 03-31-2018, 05:33 PM
Pension Reform - by Bob Seger - 03-31-2018, 06:09 PM
Pension Reform - by Granny Bear - 03-31-2018, 06:44 PM
Pension Reform - by RunItUpTheGut - 03-31-2018, 07:51 PM
Pension Reform - by WideRight05 - 03-31-2018, 07:55 PM
Pension Reform - by plantmanky - 04-01-2018, 02:38 AM
Pension Reform - by TheRealThing - 04-01-2018, 03:35 AM
Pension Reform - by killbilly usmc - 04-10-2018, 11:47 PM
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Pension Reform - by plantmanky - 04-11-2018, 02:09 AM
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Pension Reform - by Bob Seger - 04-12-2018, 04:52 AM
Pension Reform - by Real Badman - 04-12-2018, 04:54 AM
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Pension Reform - by Motley - 04-12-2018, 05:19 AM
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Pension Reform - by Bob Seger - 04-12-2018, 03:58 PM
Pension Reform - by TheRealThing - 04-13-2018, 02:15 PM
Pension Reform - by mr.fundamental - 04-16-2018, 06:06 PM
Pension Reform - by TheRealThing - 04-16-2018, 07:01 PM
Pension Reform - by Motley - 04-16-2018, 10:18 PM
Pension Reform - by mr.fundamental - 04-17-2018, 06:10 PM
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Pension Reform - by Hoot Gibson - 04-23-2018, 03:58 AM
Pension Reform - by RunItUpTheGut - 04-23-2018, 04:40 AM
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Pension Reform - by TheRealThing - 04-24-2018, 12:30 AM
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Pension Reform - by The Urban Sombrero - 04-24-2018, 02:28 AM
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Pension Reform - by TheRealThing - 04-25-2018, 12:32 AM
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Pension Reform - by TheRealThing - 04-25-2018, 08:34 PM
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Pension Reform - by The Urban Sombrero - 04-27-2018, 04:49 PM
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Pension Reform - by TheRealThing - 04-28-2018, 12:29 AM
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