[TheRealThing]

Just want to point out a few things. 1. I pointed to the surplus of TRS in '98 and since then the lack their of. 2. This study combines all retirement systems in 2014. 3. TRS current levels of funding are at 54 to 56%, as I have pointed out time and again.

To Hoot's point, teachers are tax payers as well. Teachers pay into their program 16% directly. Not counting the taxes teachers also pay as well. I will gladly pay into my own 401k as long as I get social security and get paid for my Masters and Rank one equivalent. I think the tax payers get a great deal.

To who started it please look at previous posts. I took you through '98-'18.

To someone else's point it will hurt education; think about this as of right now there is only one person who will be certified to teach physics that is going through the teacher ed program in all public universities at this given moment.

I went to the KEA Website and saw their admonition to this state's teachers. Telling them to contact their state representatives to demand teachers receive Social Security benefits. They danced around quite a lot without actually admitting that the deductions Kentucky teachers pay all go to the Kentucky Retirement Fund, and not this nation's Social Security fund. And yet though teachers have not paid into the Social Security fund, you want to draw from it anyway, right?

Thus sound financial logic notwithstanding teachers are mounting an offensive, the end aim of which would be one of two possibilities. The first one would be to go all-in on demanding inclusion as SS recipients. The second would be a straight-up taxpayer bail-out. Either way it amounts to identity theft as the bill goes to the same place, unwitting taxpayers. Who BTW have a world of grief to bear which is every bit the burden that teachers have. Your retirement, was entrusted for safe keeping to Kentucky legislators. The very same whom once filled your heads with rainbows and unicorns, and talk of a retirement utopia where Democrats would always rule. A yarn you believed completely BTW. And here's where your statistics and sound accounting practices prove they are not confluent. The truth has now come out, and even though you've all been blown up about how you're national heroes, your pension funds are not there. Therefore in a series of steps to save your retirements, Gov Bevin has done a couple of things no other Governor has had the courage to do. Tell you about it, and do something about it.