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01-24-2018, 11:43 PM
mr.fundamental Wrote:I got a few minutes... things are about to get alot worse... greed is everywhere. That is what we are really talking about with healthcare, shops opening on Sunday, tax laws, welfare, both corporate and individual, environmental standards, "news" stations, abortion, gay marriage, murder, divorce...
The American Dream and the Christian Dream are two totally separate things.
Why did Jesus who only had a three year ministry spend so much time talking about money, he spent more time talking about money then even Heaven or Hell.
Now could you imagine trying to bring back the year of jubliee? Could you imagine if everyone sold all of their possessions and follow Christ? Could you imagine you just gave away so no one had need.
1) - Then what would be the purpose of gay marriage... remember they wanted the same tax breaks and have all the legal rights that come with that...
2) - what would be the purpose of an abortion, financially, it makes no difference at that point
3) - why would you murder your neighbor, you have everything you need, would you need a gun?
would stores be open on sunday... no what would be the point
would people need welfare... no because there would be no need
would there be taxes... what would you tax
Now is that the American Dream? Lord no, it is communism or socialism depends on who owns the things.
Now to your questions...
Baptist Health group is how we do it. Do we have a hospital near you? That is a start. Gun Control... you could calm being non-violent... Martin Luther King Jr. (even though he used politics to get the Civil Rights Bill passes... he was Baptist minister)...I got to go.
Had a little something to attend to myself this morning but it would seem (barring the dreaded phone ring) that I find myself in possession of more time to address your three cure all's.
As I have already mentioned, your posts offer cover for those who are out ripping and tearing on the social scene. Such that the reason people commit the sins you mention, and which I have bolded above, is owing to some form of need. So therefore (I guess) you tend to blame those with wealth for not rescuing all these folk (whose greatest shortfall would then assumedly be the poor state in which they live,) and not their own depraved sin nature. You cannot find that allege anywhere in the Scriptures old pal. I know for a fact that God has not said anything which approaches that in the Bible. But the idea lends a certain level of mitigation by which poor folks are somehow excused for their having done these things. That again is the view of liberalism.
Hillary Clinton swore her oath by some sort of Arab renaissance years ago, and further proclaimed a new age of brotherhood, heralded by the coming of what she dubbed the 'Arab Spring.' But instead of daffodils, we got nukes, ISIS, and Iranian backed terrorism.
1) - You stated that gays only wanted tax breaks and legal rights. Which of course is the same old threadbare talking point used by the Obama administration when they used the last of their supermajority gun powder to get the repeal of DADT on Barack Obama's desk. They barely managed to get it signed before the next Congress, in December of 2010. Frankly, I thought Republicans' conspicuous lack of a strong defense on the matter, was a reprehensible stain on their public record that they will continue to regret for years to come. But because voters only have the two alternatives, either shameless Dems or spineless Republicans, we Christians have been stuck with settling for the pragmatic approach. We take what we can get for now, and hope that Tea Party and Freedom caucus Republicans, will prevail as much as possible.
Other than my lamenting for the days past in which country loving political officials in office governed with integrity, the extent and basis of my posting philosophy centers around getting things as close to right as I can. And I vote for the best option to that end. Dems on the other hand, try to hold Republicans to a moral standard that no Biblical hero, including King David, could ever hope to meet. And then in saying, "see, Republicans are hypocrites," they go about breaking every rule and law they need to break in order to win.
But back to your statement, which was secular humanistic blather. Gays live in a state of abomination, which is more than clearly forbidden in Scripture. And one for which Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed. And by way of remembrance, after the great flood, The Lord had already promised not to destroy all flesh again, remember that? Genesis 9:15 (KJV)
15 And I will remember my covenant, which is between me and you and every living creature of all flesh; and the waters shall no more become a flood to destroy all flesh.
Nevertheless after the flood, God did destroy Sodom and Gomorrah. Now, I have heard the disagreement from liberals who violently deny The Lord's reason for the utter destruction of Sodom. They say the destruction by fire and brimstone was for all sins being committed and not for just the sake of homosexuality. A position I can accept only in part, and then only in the sense that "he who breaks the law in one part, is guilty of the whole law." But why would God spare the rest of the world outside the city limits of Sodom and Gomorrah, when as everybody knows, the rest of the world was just as guilty of the general state of sin as Sodom? God would not be just for judging Sodom and letting everybody else slide, if they were all the same now would He? No, the outlying qualifier here as was clearly stated, was the grievous sin of rampant homosexuality. That and the fact that the local government had codified a code in support of that particular sin. In other words, spelled out rights, and taxes, and benefits, not unlike we have here in the US. And as such was clearly implicated as the reason for their destruction. So, wwing to the nation killing onerosity of homosexuality, The Lord did not in my view, want such unbridled acceptance of homosexuality to spread across the lands.
I've heard you defend homosexuality, I've not heard you condemn it yet.
2) - I don't know what you're trying to say about why people get abortions. But I can tell you why for the most part, that they do. They do it because abortions are as easy to come by, as the dates (and the unprotected sex) that produce the unwanted little babies in the first place. Planned Parenthood will pay for as many abortions as one would ever need. The practice of abstinence, God's plan, is these days laughed at in every quarter. So you want to put the blame where it really belongs? Start advocating for godly behavior by the inhabitants of this land where that applies to a wide open sex life. And if that falls through the Daddies of all these babies should, (under existing law) at least support those babies, and if there was anything to them at all, they'd marry the Mommies. It's called taking the responsibility for one's own action.
You'd rather to further and empower these wanton progenitors by selling all that you have, declaring Jubilee, and just send them out to do it all over again as soon as the lady in question feels better. That about right?
3) - Murder a neighbor. What did Abel have that Cain did not? Why did Cain murder Abel. Jealousy and rebelliousness, not a lack of money or stuff.
It's a ridiculous argument proven wrong millions of times across time.
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