09-08-2017, 10:45 PM
Motley Wrote:What historians? Because literally everything I can find is pretty definite about him not being one.
Historian Richard B. Morris in 1973 identified the following seven figures as the key Founding Fathers: John Adams, Benjamin Franklin, Alexander Hamilton, John Jay, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, and George Washington.[3][4]
[URL="http://www.dictionary.com/browse/founding-fathers"]Plural noun
1.the delegates to the Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia in 1787[/URL]
Those who made significant intellectual contributions to the Constitution are called the "Founding Fathers" of our country.
You keep telling yourself that your racist hero was a founding father to help you sleep better at night, and I'll stick to the real truth. You want to act like there were thousands of "founding fathers", be my guest. I'll respect those that actually contributed to the actual "founding" of the country.
Well now I can sleep better knowing I have your permission to think on my own. Many historians do consider Andrew Jackson to be a founding father.
The fact of the matter was established by the source you asked for, and which I provided. But as is always the case with flaming libs, all you really want to do is argue. First you wrongly stated Jackson's age at the time, which you said was 9 when it was actually 13. Second, and again according to historians and your own qualifying stated criteria, he " fought the revolution."
Of course, you had to blow that off because he wasn't carrying a bazooka when he got captured, but IF you had the first clue what you were talking about, (which why would you? You didn't serve, and history is certainly not your forte.); You'd know that especially in the case of a courier taken prisoner of His Majesty's Army, being physically tortured would have been expected as couriers normally had information valuable to the Brits, who had carte blanche on coming up with interrogation horrors limited only by their imagination. For example should a courier be captured, as was Andrew Jackson, he may have known the location of certain Colonial Officers, or did the camp seem to have enough food, was ammunition scarce? And what had the courier overheard about a myriad of conditions which, if he was unfortunate enough to be "CAPTURED" and "mistreated," would certainly be gotten out of him by force. In any event, you can bet it was a bit more serious a matter than being mocked for having a bad haircut.
But you can be assured on one point, your fake knowledge is even more thinly veiled than your liberal ideology. I went class regularly, and I remember the discussions on American History and in particular one 13 year old hero named Andrew Jackson who was brave enough to pursue his quest to serve in the Colonial Army until he was granted a position as courier. Any way you slice it, he had more courage and conviction than a bunch of nobody's who never served their country, but nonetheless think they have something meaningful to say about American Heritage. Thanks, and though I have a credential which states I have my ducks in a row on the matter, please do continue your lecture on matters of which you are just grinding a liberal ax.
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